What is this PCGS MS67 1885-CC Lacking----?
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Specifically, what does this eBay # 8428079075, 1885-CC lack which keeps it from grading MS 68 ?
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<< <i>actually i noticed die breaks on the obverse...is there a 85 CC Vam? >>
I can't tell if they're breaks or just die cracks. From the mint mark, it looks like a VAM 3.
Actually I don't know why it's even a 67.
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<< <i>That does not look any better than some of my 65's! >>
Pictures show us every single flaw.
First of all, there are enough contact marks on it that it really is a questionable 67. There is a nick in the neck, contact marks along the face and cheek, and in the fields of both obverse and reverse.
I suppose it's luster is soooooooo lovely in hand that the graders could not find any finer examples so it got MS67.
It is lacking a new owner, to answer the thread question
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the same thing that keeps it from grading MS66, a consensus opinion by three PCGS graders.
if you bought this coin in a 68 holder it'd be a while before you were flush, then you'd really be disappointed!!
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<< <i>The ding in the neck. >>
That's part of the design. 67 Looks right as far as one can tell from a photo.
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<< <i>That does not look any better than some of my 65's! >>
Pictures show us every single flaw.
First of all, there are enough contact marks on it that it really is a questionable 67. There is a nick in the neck, contact marks along the face and cheek, and in the fields of both obverse and reverse.
I suppose it's luster is soooooooo lovely in hand that the graders could not find any finer examples so it got MS67.
It is lacking a new owner, to answer the thread question
and for those who hate clicking on links:
My sentiments exactly. It could easily be in a 66 holder, except of course that PCGS keeps sticking 65s in those (ever look closely at an 1882-cc in 66), and by comparison, this coin I trust has more pop. I would call this a very nice 66, but I am not offended to see it in a 67 holder. No way does it make 68. Side by side you would see that 68s are essentially mark free by comparison.
<< <i>If that coin was an 1885 instead of an 1885 CC, my best guess is that it would be in a PCGS 66 holder. I dont see any thing deserving of a 68 grade. Maybe the 67 is deserving considering the bagmark problems involving the CC coins and how clean this one is compared to other 1885 CC coins. JMHO. >>
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Those are my thoughts exactly---Basically the scale for 85CC's is shifted up a grade (assuming a clean cheek) because they were all so banged up. I guess they overlook a few abrasions because grades also include strong luster and other factors. A nice 1885 - P would never see higher than a MS66 holder with a similar look. Big difference between 67 and 68--just a couple in either CC or P.