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PCGS..or..NGC..OR???

brockdabadgerbrockdabadger Posts: 251
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i know the grading fees of PCGS, but could some one enlighten me on the submittle fees of NGC ? i looked at there site and with no luck. thanks to all ahead of time... wrong forum but...if you know the fee for paper also another high five and thanks........
"SAY NO TO SULFIDE MINING"
US ARMY WITH THE BIG RED 1, MI NATL. GAURD--1982-1997

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  • 50cents50cents Posts: 1,320
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  • CC2GOCC2GO Posts: 664
    NGC must be extremely lax in their grading. I may be wrong but I am absolutely amazed at their seemingly skyhigh ratio of "perfect" coins they dish out on a regular basis. From MY OBSERVATIONS on Ebay, there's literally TONS of NGC 70 coins and extremely few PCGS 70's.

    I'm not dissing NGC! I don't want to outrage anyone here! This is just MY observation and it just blows me away
    how many "70's" they produce! Maybe they should change their name to "The Perfect Coin Grading Company."
    But that would make them PCGC and could get confusing.

    NGC MOTTO: "IF IT'S A COIN ~~ IT'S PERFECT!" image

    Somehow I just know someone is going to come in here and SLAM ME HARD! image

    But, then again...it's just my observation and opinion! I need to get away from the "bay".
    Okay! I feel better now. image

    MAYBE....I can sue them both for mental stress and trauma!? image
    At least I hope everyone gets a good laugh out of this!
  • SUPERCARCOINSSUPERCARCOINS Posts: 1,152
    CC2GO -

    No slam , you got it right ; NGC suks pretty bad......take that MS-68* 1949-d Quarter

    thats being posted and discussed ....... crack it out and send it to PCGS .

    MAYBE it would get a 67 , but in all probability - it would 66
  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭
    CC2GO: You obviously have little practical experience with NGC moderns. Yes, their grading standards are different and they allow for more on a 70 than PCGS. But you'll find those out there that think PCGS is just unreasonably tight fisted in handing out 70s... I would like to see you try and make a full submission of 20 coins and get all 70s back from NGC... image And they are far from being a service that "hands out 70s"... image


    And Supercarcoins: Examples of the same can be found in PCGS plastic too... image No service is perfect, and grading is subjective... NGC's 67 may be PCGS's 66, but there's out there that the coin is a 68 to, and others that would call it a 65... it's an opinion, and neither service is right or wrong...
    -George
    42/92
  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    CC2GO...take it easy, SGS is the 'perfect' grading company


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    Rob
    Lincoln set Colorless Set
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>CC2GO: You obviously have little practical experience with NGC moderns. Yes, their grading standards are different and they allow for more on a 70 than PCGS. But you'll find those out there that think PCGS is just unreasonably tight fisted in handing out 70s... I would like to see you try and make a full submission of 20 coins and get all 70s back from NGC... image And they are far from being a service that "hands out 70s"... image


    And Supercarcoins: Examples of the same can be found in PCGS plastic too... image No service is perfect, and grading is subjective... NGC's 67 may be PCGS's 66, but there's out there that the coin is a 68 to, and others that would call it a 65... it's an opinion, and neither service is right or wrong... >>




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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>CC2GO...take it easy, SGS is the 'perfect' grading company >>



    I've recently decided that I like SGS.

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    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • 1921obsession1921obsession Posts: 559 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>CC2GO...take it easy, SGS is the 'perfect' grading company >>



    I've recently decided that I like SGS.

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    Russ, NCNE >>



    You didn't snag that at an SGS price, did you?
    Proudly upholding derelict standards for five decades.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>CC2GO...take it easy, SGS is the 'perfect' grading company >>



    I've recently decided that I like SGS.

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    Russ, NCNE >>



    You didn't snag that at an SGS price, did you? >>




    Yes the SUCKWAD did!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You didn't snag that at an SGS price, did you? >>



    I did, indeed. Three coin set, (1965-1967), for $33 BIN. The other two were the usual crap.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • ewitteewitte Posts: 178


    << <i>CC2GO: You obviously have little practical experience with NGC moderns. Yes, their grading standards are different and they allow for more on a 70 than PCGS. But you'll find those out there that think PCGS is just unreasonably tight fisted in handing out 70s... >>



    Yes. I've seen quite a few of the recent 69DCAMS from PCGS and for a lot its perfect and I couldn't possibly see how it did not get 70. They must put some kind of electron microscope on there and bump down to 69 if one atom is off image

    Eric
  • MORGANHUNTER2MORGANHUNTER2 Posts: 4,473 ✭
    Per david when I asked the question.

    We use a 5x loupe- and 4.85 seconds to grade the coin.

    the atomizing nuetron scope is for rarities only.

  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭


    << <i>Per david when I asked the question.

    We use a 5x loupe- and 4.85 seconds to grade the coin.

    the atomizing nuetron scope is for rarities only. >>

    I think the line also varies with who grades your coin image And PCGS is very picky on very small defects like tiny strike-thrus...
    -George
    42/92
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And PCGS is very picky on very small defects like tiny strike-thrus... >>

    George, if we're speaking about so-called perfect (MS or PR 70) coins, I would hope that PCGS and others WOULD be "very picky on very small DEFECTS like tiny strike-thrus"image Let me guess - you deal in/sell a lot more NGC than PCGS 70's?image
  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And PCGS is very picky on very small defects like tiny strike-thrus... >>

    George, if we're speaking about so-called perfect (MS or PR 70) coins, I would hope that PCGS and others WOULD be "very picky on very small DEFECTS like tiny strike-thrus"image Let me guess - you deal in/sell a lot more NGC than PCGS 70's?image >>

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    Difference in opinions image


    Seriously though... what's the definition of 70? The ideal coin with absolutely no defect at 5x? Or maybe 20x? Or is a 70 a coin that is in the same condition as if it had just been struck? Or somewhere in between?
    -George
    42/92
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I would like to see you try and make a full submission of 20 coins and get all 70s back from NGC... >>



    Let's be realistic. That challenge coin only be achieved by the Coin Vault.image
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  • CC2GOCC2GO Posts: 664
    HEY! This thread is a riot! image

    SGS huh Russ? image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>SGS huh Russ? >>



    I enjoy dumpster diving.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    I'll say this about SGS: At least you can photograph the coin through their plastic.
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  • CC2GOCC2GO Posts: 664


    << <i>I enjoy dumpster diving. >>

    ....Mama always told me coin collecting is like a box of chocolate! image

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