Grade This 1911-D 2 1/2 Gold Indian Head 56k Warning

crazy4coins2005 · May 19, 2006 1:02PM

Hi, I was wondering if your guys could grade this 1911-D Indian Head for me. It's slabbed by ICG AU-55 and wanted to submit it to PCGS but wanna get your guys opinions if you think it will at least grade the same. Thanks. Sorry for the crappy pics.

darktone · May 19, 2006 1:08PM

I agree it's AU but would have to have it in hand to put an exact AU grade on it. Nice coin by the way.

LanLord · May 19, 2006 1:11PM

<< <i>I agree it's AU but would have to have it in hand to put an exact AU grade on it. Nice coin by the way. >>

Aiy captain!

Barndog · May 19, 2006 1:20PM

I recently sold an NGC AU-55 (via Heritage) that looked more worn than yours.

JadeRareCoin · May 19, 2006 1:20PM

Hard to grade indian gold from an pic, but if it has "pop" it could go MS at PCGS. Luster is key and the images can't show that.

ledzep87 · May 19, 2006 1:21PM

It is nice enough for me to buy it! I think it has a good shot.

Curley · May 19, 2006 1:27PM

A lot of "chatter marks" in the fields and on the Indian's cheek. I'd say tops AU-50 and possibly EF.

BECOKA · May 19, 2006 1:49PM

If I had to go only by the pics it could cross at AU55 or even 58. Assuming it has not been cleaned. I doubt it would down grade.

segoja · May 19, 2006 1:51PM

Looks nice...Jade is correct, hard to tell from the scans/pics.

Looks lightly cleaned.

Nice piece.

bcinok · May 19, 2006 2:09PM

I just submitted two ICG Gold Indians Graded AU55 and got grades back as follows:

1 10651432 1910 $2 1/2 USA DNC ICG AU55
2 10651433 1880 $5 USA AU55 ICG AU55

The 2 1/2 Indian would not cross at any grade, but I don't have the reason back yet. The $5 Indian crossed with no change to PCGS.

Good luck if you send it in.

crazy4coins2005 · May 19, 2006 2:17PM

<< <i>If I had to go only by the pics it could cross at AU55 or even 58. Assuming it has not been cleaned. I doubt it would down grade. >>

Why does the coin look lightly cleaned?

techeff · May 19, 2006 2:48PM

From the pics it looks AU58 or better. It also looks lightly polished, mostly in the second and third pics. However, I don't think ICG would've slabbed it if it were... Good luck!

crazy4coins2005 · May 19, 2006 2:54PM

I do have a light glaring directly on it so thats probably creating the polish look. I would hate to send it in just to be body bagged.

jdimmick · May 19, 2006 10:58PM

Detail and circualtion wise it looks every bit of Au-55, but something about the surface is bothering me, almost like others have said it has a lightly cleaned appearance. (could be the photo) Impossible to determine from a photo, but good luck if you choose to send her.

jim

Connecticoin · May 19, 2006 11:13PM

You should get AU-55 or 58.

ICG coins tend to be graded consistently with PCGS up to MS-60 or so . . . . . . at the higher MS grades, ICG tends to overgrade.

crazy4coins2005 · May 20, 2006 2:40AM

Does ICG Body Bag problem coins? If so then I think it's safe to assume it hasn't been cleaned.

coinguy1 · May 20, 2006 2:55AM

<< <i>Does ICG Body Bag problem coins? If so then I think it's safe to assume it hasn't been cleaned >>

All grading services encapsulate "cleaned" coins. It's just a matter of the degree of the cleaning and the inherent inconsistencies in grading them vs. body-bagging them.

crazy4coins2005 · May 20, 2006 3:00AM

So if my coin were to be lightly cleaned or polished how would pcgs handle this coin?

mozin · May 20, 2006 4:51AM

I think PCGS would agree the details are AU55. If you really think you need this coin in a PCGS holder, my guess is that it will cross at the same grade.

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