What's the most valuable NGC coin you own that PCGS crossed at the same grade?

drddm · May 6, 2006 10:07AM

Just curious what everyone's experience was on this situation.

Russ · May 6, 2006 10:10AM

I crossed a couple of PR68CAM Accented Hair Kennedys, but I submitted them for another forum member. They went from $200 coins to $1200 coins. Actually, one of them sold for more - a LOT more - but that was a fluke.

Russ, NCNE

tradedollarnut · May 6, 2006 10:11AM

That I personally got crossed? This one:

If you extend it to what crossed before I owned it, the answer would be different.

Shamika · May 6, 2006 10:11AM

Hmmm.... Your question fits nicely with THIS THREAD.

drddm · May 6, 2006 10:24AM

I expanded your thread JUST A LITTLE.

drddm · May 6, 2006 10:27AM

Wow, that 1873 CC seated dollar is one EXPENSIVE coin!!!

VERY NICE.....CONGRATS!!!

majorbigtime · May 6, 2006 10:29AM

During a free promotion a few years ago, I crossed a PF67 1937 buffalo.

I wouldn't pay a wooden nickel to cross, but that was a freebie.

roadrunner · May 6, 2006 10:39AM

Nothing. I've attempted to cross about 24 outstanding NGC coins with a 0% hit rate. But curiously my rate with ANACS and PCGS in resubmits for upgrades is 100%. I've sent in cracked out NGC coins to PCGS and had most grade the same or go up a point. A few did go down a point. But my cross rate is abysmal. Even Heritage sent in a bunch of my best coins for me as a trial (coins we agreed on) and as a group only 1 coin of 12 crossed. That was a $5K seated half.

roadrunner

jpkinla · May 6, 2006 10:41AM

I have crossed a 1932 Saint in MS66 from NGC to PCGS on the first try as well as a 1909/8 Saint in MS65.....Not too many but a few....

Also crossed my $20 1900-s in MS65 over on the first try.....

PhillyJoe · May 6, 2006 10:50AM

Russ looked at a 7 or 8 of my NGC accented hair 68cam Kennedys, picked out the two that had the pcgs look , sent them in and both crossed.

Russ is my hero.

Joe

drddm · May 6, 2006 10:52AM

Congrats Philly Joe. Looks like Russ has got the "eye" huh?

Coxe · May 6, 2006 10:55AM

Barely crossed my mind to cross my NGCs at PCGS. Is that like a rule or something? I have crossed ANACS and ICG at both of them, but I don't see much reason in the long run, at least not for now, to do this.

JrGMan2004 · May 6, 2006 11:02AM

Just a 1965 SMS Washington that I crossed from NGC 67CAM to PCGS 67CAM... i had another NGC 67CAM that didn't cross, and that sold for about $125... the PCGS 67CAM I believe I sold for $425

Russ · May 6, 2006 11:04AM

<< Congrats Philly Joe. Looks like Russ has got the "eye" huh? >>

Joe is making me look a lot better than reality.

It was actually 13 coins, I picked the best five, and got two of those to cross.

Russ, NCNE

PhillyJoe · May 6, 2006 11:05AM

<< Congrats Philly Joe. Looks like Russ has got the "eye" huh? >>

I can't imagine how many coins Russ has looked at in his realtive short time in the hobby, but, yes, he has the eye.

Joe

09sVDB · May 6, 2006 11:09AM

32S MS62 Washington Quarter

PhillyJoe · May 6, 2006 11:11AM

<< 

<< Congrats Philly Joe. Looks like Russ has got the "eye" huh? >>

Joe is making me look a lot better than reality.

It was actually 13 coins, I picked the best five, and got two of those to cross.

Russ, NCNE >>

You know, when the checks started coming in the mail, I seem to forget some of the details.

He TOLD me two would cross, one was a maybe, and the other two filled out the order.

Joe

coinkat · May 6, 2006 11:17AM

I do not recall attempting to cross an NGC GRADED COIN TO A PCGS.

DennisH · May 6, 2006 11:50AM

Didn't cross at the same grade, but instead went up a point (yes, submitted in the holder):

1880-O Morgan VAM 49, went from an NGC-61 to a PCGS-62.

(One of just seven Mint State examples of this variety known to exist.)

drddm · May 6, 2006 11:54AM

Wow, I NEVER thought that was possible!!!!

CONGRATS!!!

I thought PCGS ONLY crosses at the SAME grade and the expects the customer to resubmit for a regrade.

Good for you...I wonder how many times that actually happens.

DHeath · May 6, 2006 11:55AM

Had one 5 figure coin cross a few years ago. I haven't submitted but a few since.

Russ · May 6, 2006 12:04PM

<< Had one 5 figure coin cross a few years ago. >>

Did it look anything like this?

Russ, NCNE

Stuart · May 6, 2006 12:09PM

I have been thinking of trying to cross this 1883-S NGC MS-62 Morgan Dollar to PCGS for inclusion in my PCGS Registry Set.

DennisH · May 6, 2006 12:10PM

Stuart:

That sure looks like a strong MS62!!

Stuart · May 6, 2006 1:00PM

Dennis: Thanks for your post. I agree that this 1883-S is strong for the MS-62 grade, and that it's got a shot at upgrading to MS-63 with PCGS.

It's in one of those old conservatively graded "fat" keyless NGC slabs.

1883-S NCG MS-62 Morgan Dollar

cupronik · May 6, 2006 1:52PM

cupronik · May 6, 2006 2:47PM

To sum up what I didn't show in the previous reply:

I slabbed a beautiful original 1934-D Washington 25c as the FIRST NGC MS-67 back in 1996 or '97.
Over a seven-year period I tried to cross it over at PCGS four times, all unsuccessfully. It would have been the FIRST PCGS MS-67 34-D if it had crossed. In Spring 2004 I consign the NGC MS-67 coin to
Heritage for inclusion in their 2004 Summer ANA Signature Sale. Interestingly, HRCG is able to cross
this coin into a PCGS MS-67 holder on their FIRST try. Now three 34-D 25c exist in PCGS-67. As of 5/1/06 the pop remains at three.

I've seen all three 34-D's in P67 and (despite the appearance of bias) I genuinely like mine the best in
terms of eye-appeal. A highly respected Washington Quarter series expert has confided the same
sentiments.

This PCGS MS-67 1934-D 25c brought $17,250 in the auction.

I wasn't the one who crossed it over, Heritage did. But I "won" the money.

On a smaller scale:

Back in 1999 I crossed an NGC MS-64 1929-D Buffalo 5c to a PCGS MS-65!
That was a pleasant surprise.

Shamika · May 7, 2006 12:33AM

<< I wasn't the one who crossed it over, Heritage did. But I "won" the money. >>

Thank goodness. At first, your response had me believing Heritage purchased the coin and then crossed it for themselves.

saintguru · May 7, 2006 12:50AM

Crossed a 1929 MS65 Saint. First shot.

CharlotteDude · May 7, 2006 1:09AM

This 1860-S $3 was in an NGC VF-35 holder. It's now (as of Dec 2004) in a PCGS XF-45 holder.

the 'dude

SUPERCARCOINS · May 7, 2006 1:34AM

russ - how much for that 1966 Sms 68 Dcam ? you don't really need it ; u have sooo many !

Russ · May 7, 2006 4:48AM

<< russ - how much for that 1966 Sms 68 Dcam ? you don't really need it ; u have sooo many ! >>

I wish that sucker was mine! It's the one that Don mentioned crossing from NGC.

Russ, NCNE

CoinMaster1229 · May 7, 2006 4:57AM

I have about 12 NGC MS-70 Modern Commemoratives, that i have thought about trying to cross. but have not done it yet!

Stuart · May 7, 2006 5:05AM

CoinMaster1229: I guess that upgrades for those NGC MS-70's are totally out of the question.

marmac · May 7, 2006 5:07AM

A NGC $1 1894-s NGC MS63 now it resides in PCGS plastic as a 64

RYK · May 7, 2006 5:08AM

The Duke's Creek 1857-D G$1 NGC MS-62 is now in a an "Eliasberg" PCGS MS-62 holder

jcping · May 7, 2006 5:08AM

1926S standing liberty quarter NGC-MS62 to PCGS AU58FH.

The only upgrade I ever had is 1918 buffalo 5c from NGC MS63 to PCGS MS64 and sold it back to the same dealer

coinlieutenant · May 7, 2006 5:13AM

This one crossed on its first attempt...Now a pop 1/0 at PCGS. Next highest is a 65. This is the only white coin in my collection and it is simply stunning.

BAJJERFAN · May 7, 2006 5:24AM

I'm pretty sure its this one; at least its the most valuable of the crossed coins that I have left. AU53

These are the seller's original pix.

tradedollarnut · May 7, 2006 5:51AM

In honor of CoinLieutenant, this one also crossed over at the same grade:

fcloud · May 7, 2006 5:57AM

This one was in a NGC MS61 holder. Sent it for cross, it came back DNC. Broke it out, sent it in, it came back MS63. I think there is a bias, and I think this is evidence of it. I'll always break out coins when I send them in.

coinlieutenant · May 7, 2006 6:52AM

Man, I love that 72-CC

66Tbird · May 7, 2006 7:37AM

1914 D $10 in 62. Now there is a scratch that wasn't there before. Guess its maxed out now, thanks, disgust; Then did a 1905 10C from 62 to 63Cam. Simple stuff really, just easily spotted upgrades.

cape · May 7, 2006 7:43AM

i had a ngc 1927d ms64 buff nickel cross on a 100.00 trip to pcgs ms 65 . this coin was my first major upgrade.

mrcommem · May 7, 2006 7:46AM

I crossed an 1839-D quarter eagle AU55

rayovac · May 7, 2006 8:51AM

I crossed a NGC MS66 1971P IKE to PCGS MS66 - In the holder
I crossed a NGC MS65 nonFS 1958P to a PCGS MS65FS
I crossed a NGC MS65 nonFS 1952P to a PCGS MS65FS

morgannut2 · May 7, 2006 8:54AM

For some reason the only ones that crossed for me were CC Dollars in AU--Unfortunately not quite as nice as TDN's.

dwssws · May 7, 2006 9:40AM

crossed an 1899 o ngc 67 old no line fatty to pcgs at same grade and went 0 for 9 on the other coins in the submission even though a few we felt were just as nice or nicer

Nic · May 7, 2006 10:21AM

Never tried to cross in the holder. Had many raw cross or upgrade. K

PS Like this one .....

tcmitssr · May 7, 2006 10:21AM

I've crossed 13 out of 16 NGC silver classic commems. The most valuable was an MS 66 Maryland that was just a few percent shy of being a total monster. I'd say it's worth 2x between bid & ask.

CommemDude · May 8, 2006 7:23AM

It seems that no matter how carefully I pick NGC coins for cross over, no more than 50% make it per submission. I wouldnt even consider trying crossing NGC commems in MS68, it won't happen.

My best score: Old holder 1795 dollar, totally original unhairlined and fully struck, no adjustment marks, NGC 53, crossed to PCGS 55.

What's the most valuable NGC coin you own that PCGS crossed at the same grade?

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