Is there 2 diferent dies on the nevada quarter?

LUNETIST · April 11, 2006 8:11AM

Hello everyone. I was just curiousabout 2 different dies on the nevada quarters? I was looking thru a roll i got at the bank, and on the reverse where th first horse is on the left side his hind legs dissapear into the banner on some of them. On other ones his hind leg closer to the coin is bent up and you can see part of the calf higher than the banner.
Has anyone else noticed this?

Manorcourtman · April 11, 2006 8:24AM

Don't know but interesting observation.

LUNETIST · April 11, 2006 8:29AM

In a full roll of quarters only 8 had the extra part of the leg above the banner wher it is written SILVER. Sorry don't ask for pictures do not have my digital on hand. But has any body else noticed this?
It is on the quarters from the philly mint

richbeat · April 12, 2006 4:37PM

Oh boy! We've got high leg and low leg versions!

clackamas · April 12, 2006 4:39PM

Post pics, you can use a scanner.

TwoSides2aCoin · April 12, 2006 4:47PM

like most studs.... there are those with the bent leg variety and then, there're them strait legged ones.

Smitty79 · April 12, 2006 5:00PM

Sounds to me like a grease filled die. No biggie.

LUNETIST · April 12, 2006 6:32PM

here is a pic hope its ok

LUNETIST · April 12, 2006 6:39PM

I can't see how grease filled the die. On all of them it looks like a bent leg. Also noticed something on the horse on the right rear by the sun. His hind legs are different than the other nevada quarters. I can't say what it looks like, There is something there. I'll try to get a picture of that too. I even wrote to coin world and sent them a picture, of the leg. Lets see what they say.

Conder101 · April 12, 2006 11:24PM

Ok, that's one picture. Now we need a picture of the other variety so we can compare the two. Can't tell if there are two varieties if we only have a picture of one of them.

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 7:29AM

Will try to post tonight the non-bent leg.

cladking · April 13, 2006 7:43AM

The tail looks a little different than those I've seen as well but this might just
be caused by a good strike. The foreleg may just be a small die chip. A picture
of it may be useful as well, especially if taken from the top of the coin a little more.

tincup · April 13, 2006 7:50AM

Drats... now my investment in those extra leaf Wisconsins are probably going to start dropping.... a new kid is on the block!?

gamr0n · April 13, 2006 7:54AM

Maybe I will stop by the bank tomorrow and pick some quarters up.

coinman420 · April 13, 2006 7:56AM

i have a few i pulled from circulation and they definately look different than that. your photo doesn`t show the area well enough to be sure what you have there.

pharmer · April 13, 2006 7:57AM

You might want to wait for the comparison pic.

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 8:09AM

Hello again,
My picture taking skills are not the best. I have noticed that Russ takes some great pictures! Any way to get in touch with him? I'll send him one to take a picture of to clear up everything. Can someone help me get in touch with him? Like I said there are 2 places where they are different than the regular one.

bhartman35 · April 13, 2006 8:12AM

I have two Nevada quarters. They both look like this:

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 8:19AM

How the heck do you take such great pictures? Yes mine are like that but the calf on the first horse on the left side is very visable by the hind leg. The third horse on the right has wher the knee caps meet up something funny looking, do not know how th describe it!!! Do not want to even attempt to because you people will think this whole thread is a joke. I took a picture of the third horse will post it later because I do not know how. My wife does this stuff usually ( please do not make fun)

tincup · April 13, 2006 8:21AM

Looks like a cud along the top of the banner. You can see the same small portion of the leg on both coins... right at the corner where the left leg of the horse and the banner meet..... but the 'bent' leg coin looks like extra metal like a cud layered along the small portion of the leg. That's what is looks like to me... but close up pictures showing more detail would help decide. I do not believe the extra metal is actually part of the left leg.

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 8:24AM

Question? Would a cud make 11 of the same quarters in the roll? And also affect a third horse?

bhartman35 · April 13, 2006 8:31AM

Here's the best I could do with the leg detail:

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 8:33AM

On mine it covers the ILV in the banner where it sais silver and comes up maybe 2 centemeters

cladking · April 13, 2006 8:50AM

<< <i>Question? Would a cud make 11 of the same quarters in the roll? And also affect a third horse? >>

Yes.

Most rolls are made up of coins from six or eight pair so there will be one to a dozen or so of each.

A chipped die would affect every coin it struck after it was damaged.

Don't write this one off yet though. That doesn't look like a typical "cud" and the tail is still unexplained.

Gemineye · April 13, 2006 9:02AM

<< <i>Ok, that's one picture. Now we need a picture of the other variety so we can compare the two. Can't tell if there are two varieties if we only have a picture of one of them. >>

For those of us who have the Proof sets already..........that** leg **does not exist.........
above the letters .. i l .. inthe word silver...

bhartman35 · April 13, 2006 9:34AM

<< <i>above the letters .. i l .. inthe word silver... >>

So that metal is a cud? How many do you think have that difference/defect? The two (and only two) I've had look like that.

cladking · April 13, 2006 9:42AM

<< <i>

So that metal is a cud? How many do you think have that difference/defect? The two (and only two) I've had look like that. >>

Very interesting. So You're in New Jersey.

Where are you Lunetist?

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 9:43AM

Don't know? I counted today how many I have with the wierd leg there are 11 total out of ine roll. I'm sending one to Russ friday to look at and take pictures to post. We will see then.

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 9:46AM

No not in NJ but your near me NY

bhartman35 · April 13, 2006 10:11AM

I'm in Scotch Plains, NJ. Up until tonight, I thought I lived in some sort of Numismatic Hell, considering I've only ever gotten one Bison nickel in change...

MrSpud · April 13, 2006 11:19AM

I don't know about the bent silver leg, but i have a couple of these with "wounded knees"

LUNETIST · April 13, 2006 11:22AM

THATS IT!!!!!!! But on mine that die break is also with the raised calf on the first horse. Also mine has a small seperation in that die break?
Mine looks like something else

MrSpud · April 13, 2006 11:46AM

Here are a couple of microscope close-ups of the die break on mine

MrSpud · April 13, 2006 12:24PM

Here is another microscope picture of the wounded knee break with the light coming from a different angle

And here is a picture from the same coin of the bent silver knee area of the coin. There is a little bit of something there, probably not as much as on your coin though Lunetist

cladking · April 13, 2006 1:11PM

I'm gonna guess that this is just a well struck example from a well-hubbed die. Even
on the other specimens I've seen it looks like the artist intended this leg to be bent.
This coupled with the extra detail in the tail might imply that you just have a very well
struck coin.

I'll keep an eye on these.

richbeat · April 16, 2006 7:55AM

I'm not a horse expert, but from what I can see, that doesn't look to be anything intentional. If that was supposed to be part of the horse's rear leg, wouldn't it be "bent" the wrong way? I don't think horses' rear legs bend like that. It looks to be a chip or cud to me, pending better pictures.

PonyPuller · April 16, 2006 9:40AM

You're correct on the horse's leg anatomy. A horse's back legs wouldn't bend backwards at the location in question. Rather, they would be bent forward, i.e., the next step places a back hoof on the ground under the horses stomach. Even between steps, the back legs come up rather than extend out behind the horse very far.

charley · April 16, 2006 9:56AM

Die Cracks exist on Obverse @ neck of Wash. Most are on left, and direction is right, toward bottom Obverse right. Some very dramatic. 13 examples so far cataloged, and 3 have similar "knee" flaw. 2 obviously different Dies are represented by the 13 examples. I respectfully request that anyone with die breaks of this piece p.m. pictures to me if not to much trouble, so that I may continue with the cataloging of die breaks. I sincerely appreciate all efforts to do so. Note: also 2 Die Break examples -between "of" and "AMERICA", direction north to south. Possible third Die, but not enough info yet to confirm. Regards and Respectfully, John Curlis

Is there 2 diferent dies on the nevada quarter?

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