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Misattributed 1803 cent & shill bidding on ebay

rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Take a look at this auction. This is a common "small 3, small fraction" cent in an ANACS holder, misattributed by the seller as a very rare "large 3, small fraction". That is a $30 corroded common date, being plugged as a very rare variety, and it has been shilled through the roof, too. I don't think there is any point in emailing the seller because I'm sure he/she knows exactly what they are doing. I did report it to ebay, though. Think they will pull it?

Link to ebay auction

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you reported antagonist71 as the seller's shill, you should succeed. I reported a shill a few weeks ago and ebay took a few days, but eventually NARU'd the seller and at least one of the seller's shill accounts.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Burn 'em at the stake!

    Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1

  • DickyBetzDickyBetz Posts: 3,825


    << <i>Burn 'em at the stake! >>



    Wheres your gun?
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>Take a look at this auction. This is a common "small 3, small fraction" cent in an ANACS holder, misattributed by the seller as a very rare "large 3, small fraction". That is a $30 corroded common date, being plugged as a very rare variety, and it has been shilled through the roof, too. I don't think there is any point in emailing the seller because I'm sure he/she knows exactly what they are doing. I did report it to ebay, though. Think they will pull it?

    Link to ebay auction >>



    not sure if they will pull it. they should IMHO

    this deffinately shows the importence of "knowing what one is buying"
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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My naivte here... why wouldn't ANACS attribute the variety on the holder??

    Leo
    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    ANACS did attribute the variety. The problem is there are two sub-varieties of the small fraction large cents, small 3 and large 3-- one common (the one in the auction, a "small 3") and the other much rarer (a "large 3"). Hope this helps...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    Shill bidding reported.
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  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    You know they need to make it easier to report shill bidding....
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Burn 'em at the stake! >>



    Wheres your gun? >>




    Oh, you know... My wife wouldn't let me play with it any more image

    I'm kinder and gentler, now. Looked for a Teddy bear, but had to settle for this.

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  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
    Took a quick look, it's either an S-253 or S-263. Either one is common and it DEFINITELY isn't the S-264 they are claiming it is. I would be willing to pay more than $30, maybe $50 or so for it. Why didn't they put the variety on it? The submitter probably didn't ask for it to be attributed.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like eBay is going to let this one slide. Too bad because someone is about to take it in the arse with no lube.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad because someone is about to take it in the ......


    Quite possibly. I think we can just email the winning bidder, and send them a link to this thread. If 3-4 of us send an email, I doubt that payment will be sent. A similar favor was once done for me on a scam auction- 3 or 4 people who knew the scammer emailed & saved me from donating $760 to the scammer's cause after I won an auction for a 1796 large cent he didn't own. However, be careful not to inform the winning bidder if they appear to be a shill, as that will only tip them off and make things worse.


  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After some research the current high bidder, "digdesignz", does not appear to be a shill bidder.
  • sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    According to nineballdave, this bidder is no longer of this earth.
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  • tigermarootigermaroo Posts: 265 ✭✭
    Doesn't matter yet, reserve not met...
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>ANACS did attribute the variety. The problem is there are two sub-varieties of the small fraction large cents, small 3 and large 3-- one common (the one in the auction, a "small 3") and the other much rarer (a "large 3"). Hope this helps...Mike >>



    Mike...I was looking for Sheldon variety. I thought ANACS did that. my mistake... I'm somewhat of a copper collector and Large Cents are something of a "guilty pleasure" ;-) Leo
    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>After some research the current high bidder, "digdesignz", does not appear to be a shill bidder. >>



    Can someone please school me here... I thought the purpose of a "shill bidder" was to artificially inflate the price of something or generate interest in something by driving up the number of bids.

    Also, why would a seller have a reverse on something he's using shill bidders for?

    Thanks,

    Leo
    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Disingenuous and stupid?
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