How do old scd grades crossover ??

tennesseebanker · April 4, 2006 11:16AM

Has anyone had any experience crossing over the old SCD graded cards ?? Like this one ??

gosteelers · April 4, 2006 11:23AM

Wow, sharp card. I'd be nervous about the trimming factor, though.

charliehustle14 · April 4, 2006 11:35AM

I have had very positive results in submitting many "old SCD"-holdered cards. I think they were actually a pretty good grading company.

tennesseebanker · April 4, 2006 11:45AM

Is this payton 9 worthy ?? Is the centering good enough t/b ??

charliehustle14 · April 4, 2006 11:52AM

The scan is kind of small, so it's hard to see much detail, but I notice a slight diamond cut L-R. If the corners are sharp, and the card is otherwise as nice as it seems, I bet you've got yourself a 9.

Good luck,

Todd

Southerncards · April 4, 2006 12:07PM

There is a definite tilt to that card, which looks more tilted on the right than it does on the left. That leads me to think its been trimmed.

Could be wrong though. Be interesting to see the measurements.

shagrotn77 · April 4, 2006 12:24PM

This seller keeps coming up with these really high-grade old SCD gems. Seems very odd to me since SCD has been out of the graded card business for years.

Also, old SCD cards have had great success crossing to PSA, probably better than any company, even SGC. BUT ya gotta think a knowledgeable seller selling such cards would have already tried to cross them. Just some food for thought...

aro13 · April 4, 2006 12:58PM

What shagrotn77 said!

Bosox1976 · April 4, 2006 1:13PM

I've been thinking the ame thing about that seller. Makes you wonder what happened to the leftover flips when they sold out.

poppie · April 4, 2006 1:20PM

looks PSA 10 to me. I do not see the tilt at all!

baseballfanatic · April 4, 2006 10:34PM

Old SCD cards are some of the nicest around, and thier "tough" grading standards ran them right out of the business. They were counting on thier name and "experience" in the card market to push them past all the other competitors, PLUS the fact they were counting on Larry Fritsch having the bulk of his collection graded by them. I have a ton of cards with the "Fritsch Collection" label PLUS the UT (untouched) moniker and they were only graded between 6.5 and 8! If I was submitting "case fresh" vintage cards and they were coming back in the 7 range, I know I would stop submitting, thus losing my biggest customer I was counting on to make it big........

tennesseebanker · April 4, 2006 11:40PM

Well, I was looking at that Payton card on e-bay, it was around $200 when I was thinking of crossing it over. It ended over $400, which is just too much of a risk for me to try to cross it over. @ $200 if it came back a 9 I could still call it about even, but $400 too risky.

baseballfanatic · April 4, 2006 11:45PM

Too risky is right. There is no such thing as a "sure thing" crossover. People on this board resubmit PSA cards and get bumped two grades! All depends on the grader and what kind of a day he/she has had. It would have definately been a candidate to submit in the holder though. I don't have the courage (or cash on hand) to crack out high dollar other company 10's (or 98's or 9.5's)hoping for a PSA 10 in return...

gemint · April 5, 2006 12:56AM

How do you tell the old flips from the newer ones?

tennesseebanker · April 5, 2006 12:59AM

The old flips have SCD in a red circle, the newer ones are blue, amoung a few other small differences.

bobbybakeriv · April 5, 2006 2:38AM

I've only crossed one SCD card over. It was a newer flip for a 1976 card. I may have been lucky but the card in question went from an SCD 10 to a PSA 9.

Of course, I cracked it out prior to submission.

How do old scd grades crossover ??

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