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How do old scd grades crossover ??

tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
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Has anyone had any experience crossing over the old SCD graded cards ?? Like this one ??


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  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    Wow, sharp card. I'd be nervous about the trimming factor, though.
  • charliehustle14charliehustle14 Posts: 425 ✭✭✭
    I have had very positive results in submitting many "old SCD"-holdered cards. I think they were actually a pretty good grading company.
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Is this payton 9 worthy ?? Is the centering good enough t/b ??
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  • charliehustle14charliehustle14 Posts: 425 ✭✭✭
    The scan is kind of small, so it's hard to see much detail, but I notice a slight diamond cut L-R. If the corners are sharp, and the card is otherwise as nice as it seems, I bet you've got yourself a 9.

    Good luck,

    Todd
  • SoutherncardsSoutherncards Posts: 1,384 ✭✭
    There is a definite tilt to that card, which looks more tilted on the right than it does on the left. That leads me to think its been trimmed.


    Could be wrong though. Be interesting to see the measurements.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    This seller keeps coming up with these really high-grade old SCD gems. Seems very odd to me since SCD has been out of the graded card business for years.

    Also, old SCD cards have had great success crossing to PSA, probably better than any company, even SGC. BUT ya gotta think a knowledgeable seller selling such cards would have already tried to cross them. Just some food for thought...
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    What shagrotn77 said!
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been thinking the ame thing about that seller. Makes you wonder what happened to the leftover flips when they sold out.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • poppiepoppie Posts: 598
    looks PSA 10 to me. I do not see the tilt at all!
    My focus, 1970 Topps Baseball Raw and Graded, pre 1989 PSA Hockey and 1933 INDIAN GUM ! Yikes!!
  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    Old SCD cards are some of the nicest around, and thier "tough" grading standards ran them right out of the business. They were counting on thier name and "experience" in the card market to push them past all the other competitors, PLUS the fact they were counting on Larry Fritsch having the bulk of his collection graded by them. I have a ton of cards with the "Fritsch Collection" label PLUS the UT (untouched) moniker and they were only graded between 6.5 and 8! If I was submitting "case fresh" vintage cards and they were coming back in the 7 range, I know I would stop submitting, thus losing my biggest customer I was counting on to make it big........
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Well, I was looking at that Payton card on e-bay, it was around $200 when I was thinking of crossing it over. It ended over $400, which is just too much of a risk for me to try to cross it over. @ $200 if it came back a 9 I could still call it about even, but $400 too risky.
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  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    Too risky is right. There is no such thing as a "sure thing" crossover. People on this board resubmit PSA cards and get bumped two grades! All depends on the grader and what kind of a day he/she has had. It would have definately been a candidate to submit in the holder though. I don't have the courage (or cash on hand) to crack out high dollar other company 10's (or 98's or 9.5's)hoping for a PSA 10 in return...
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you tell the old flips from the newer ones?
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    The old flips have SCD in a red circle, the newer ones are blue, amoung a few other small differences.
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  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I've only crossed one SCD card over. It was a newer flip for a 1976 card. I may have been lucky but the card in question went from an SCD 10 to a PSA 9.

    Of course, I cracked it out prior to submission.image
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