State penny and Kennedy penny...
OHC6
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Hey there, recently I stumbled upon two strange pennies, indicated by the title.
One is a penny with the state of New Mexico inscribed next to Lincoln. I recently found out this was some type of special little deal done for all 50 states, I have a little pamphlet about filling out a form and getting a steel penny, buffalo nickel, and state penny. So can anyone tell me more about this little program? I can't find anything about it from searching yahoo and these forums.
Also, this penny seems to be gold, or at least gold plated. Were these pennies actually gold? Is there a way I can test it to see if its really gold?
Next up is a penny with the face of Kennedy inscribed next to Lincoln. I read in a very old thread that someone has seen these before. What the heck are they and how did they get that way? It looks to me machine carved, so maybe it was from a company or something?
Thanks for any help, I'll post a picture of the state penny when I get my darn camera running.
One is a penny with the state of New Mexico inscribed next to Lincoln. I recently found out this was some type of special little deal done for all 50 states, I have a little pamphlet about filling out a form and getting a steel penny, buffalo nickel, and state penny. So can anyone tell me more about this little program? I can't find anything about it from searching yahoo and these forums.
Also, this penny seems to be gold, or at least gold plated. Were these pennies actually gold? Is there a way I can test it to see if its really gold?
Next up is a penny with the face of Kennedy inscribed next to Lincoln. I read in a very old thread that someone has seen these before. What the heck are they and how did they get that way? It looks to me machine carved, so maybe it was from a company or something?
Thanks for any help, I'll post a picture of the state penny when I get my darn camera running.
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never worth less than one cent!
<< <i>counter stamped...post minting.
never worth less than one cent! >>
Wha? Not quite gettin ya there...
lincoln is smoking a pipe... or whatever they want to make the punch into (image wise)
then they simply place the punch on an ordinary one cent piece and hit it with a hammer.
there ya go!.....one counter punched cent ....damaged for all time!
its a novelty...not worth more than the cent its on.
as far as gold color?....could be painted , plated ...just more damage.
<< <i>When I was about 6 (32years ago) I bought one of those Kennedy Lincolns. It was glued to a small piece of paper with odd similarities between the two presidents' lives and assassinations. I recently got one in a bunch of wheaties that came in a bulk lot. >>
Very interesting. The penny with the Kennedy head is from 1974, so it may have been stamped with the coin or recently after production. Also, it seems there is paper stuck to the back of the penny. So I assume it was done in bulk, maybe by a private company. I'll have to look deeper into that one.
With the state penny, it is a penny either made or stamped by the Kennedy Mint in Ohio. So it is pretty much a legit penny because they still sell them to date, and I don't think the government would allow such a large company to produce things like this without being legit.
http://www.kennedymint.net/product_info.php/cPath/26/products_id/85
About it being gold or at least plated, Im still looking into that.
Typical counterstamps on modern Lincoln cents include Lincoln with - state outlines, a bible, smoking a pipe, smoking other stuff, with kennedy, with a star, with the Liberty bell, with a rose, and many others. They are easy to make and don't take a lot of money or effort to make them. They are made by a large number of small companies and sold in truck stops, gift shops, roadside tourist traps, and a number of other retail locations.
Modern counterstamped Lincoln cents are usually never worth more than 50 cents each, and are VERY easy to obtain.
The Lincoln with Kennedy counterstamp is often accompanied by or attached to (with glue) a card explaining all the so-called similarities Kennedy and Lincoln had (other than the obvious that both were assassinated), and were often given out by financial institutions as premiums for opening accounts or whatever. Many of these cards/cents still exist, but I haven't seen any that were made within the past 20 years.
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http://thefuntimesguide.com/movabletype/archives/2005/08/lincoln_kennedy.html
Just a stamped penny, but could still bring a few dollars from people who like collecting things like that.
As for the state outlines, still havn't found much on them. I've been looking all over the internet and have yet to find a picture of a state penny or one for sale. That site I listed says they are for sale, but does not even show a picture of one. The only picture I can find is on a little pamphlet from Kennedy Mint from the 80's, looks to be 1982.
So the Kennedy is solved, just a stamped coin worth maybe a few dollars if you're lucky, and the states are still unsolved.
They are just regular cents that some company or private individual has punched with a steel stamp that has whatever design on it he wants. If you do a google search you will find that there are many companies out there that will create a punch for you with whatever you want on it and then you can start stamping your own designs on coins. They are considered to be novelty type items which bring small amounts from people who like that kind of thing. To most all collectors they are just damaged coins and only worth face value.
A similar thing are the cents with shapes punched out of them. I've seen hearts, books, a boat, a dove, possibly a couple more.