For an PCGS or NGC eBay auction, do you look for a pic in the slab?

lsica · February 12, 2006 7:49AM

When bidding on a coin on eBay that's claimed to be for a PCGS or NGC coin, do you look for a picture of the coin in the slab to "prove" that? Or at least a photo of the label?

TomB · February 12, 2006 8:13AM

This is something I do not do and I don't even include an image of the slab on those rare occassions where I sell things on ebay. However, I have had a number of potential bidders ask me for certification numbers of coins that were certified by PCGS and NGC, I guess in order to check the validity of the number.

garsmith · February 12, 2006 8:19AM

Typically when I list I show the entire slab obverse and reverse and tell them to contact me if they want more detailed pictures.

I would not bid on a coin that doesn't show the slab unless they provide the certification number for verification.

LindeDad · February 12, 2006 8:49AM

Depend on the seller, one of the board members very seldom includes pictures of his PCGS coins. And I buy from him gladly trusting that it will be what he says it is. Some others on eBay I won't buy from no matter what the picture shows.
So I guess what I am saying is there is no set answer to your question.

Myqqy · February 12, 2006 8:58AM

There are quite a few sellers that I trust, and I don't need an in-slab pic from them. I usually don't purchase much from folks that I don't have a decent amount of trust in....

Shamika · February 12, 2006 9:10AM

I prefer seeing the coin in the slab.

Fairlaneman · February 12, 2006 9:22AM

I want to see the coin !!! Not a bunch of plastic. Thats how I do it when selling also. If someone wants the coin number I will gladly send it to them.

Ken

Moose1913 · February 12, 2006 9:24AM

<< <i>I prefer seeing the coin in the slab. >>

crito · February 12, 2006 9:29AM

Heck, I once blanked out the cert# in a pic on the BST forum, otherwise showing the entire slab, and a bunch of regulars here accused me of running some kind of scam! Was broke at the time and forced to sell my collection to pay bills too... on the plus side though, that's how I found eBay (and I've never bother with the BST forum here again.) But hey, like the saying goes, it's when times are tough you really find out who your friends are.

Now that times are good I'm returning the favor. Oh, and the rest of 'em can ki$$ my a$$.

So I'd show the whole slab (and cert#) if I were you.

AU58WALKERS · February 12, 2006 9:34AM

Why would you blank out the cert number of a coin that you are selling??

crito · February 12, 2006 9:35AM

Obviously because I was running a scam. What other possible reason could there be? I can't think of any.

Ever notice how theives are the first to accuse people of stealing and liars are the first to accuse people of lying? Just an observation.

AU58WALKERS · February 12, 2006 9:40AM

WOW! Now that was a very informative answear...sounds like you'r still a little heated.

joeyuk · February 12, 2006 9:41AM

For an E-bay auction I will use 3 pics . the full front slab, close up coin obv. and coin rev.

Some people hide cert numbers so someone doesn't use it in a set as a phantom coin
assuming the purchaser does not register it.

AU58WALKERS · February 12, 2006 10:02AM

<< <i>For an E-bay auction I will use 3 pics . the full front slab, close up coin obv. and coin rev.

Some people hide cert numbers so someone doesn't use it in a set as a phantom coin
assuming the purchaser does not register it. >>

THANK YOU!...for a real answear.

RedTiger · February 12, 2006 12:18PM

On Ebay, yes, I'd like to see a picture of the slab or at least of the number. If it is low value item (under $100), the number can be separate.

MikeInFL · February 12, 2006 12:27PM

As I only bid on coins that have a return policy, I'm not too hung up on pictures of the slab -- if there's any games being played the coin will be returned...Mike

OKbustchaser · February 12, 2006 12:34PM

No, I look for pictures of the coin. I couldn't care less about the slab. I already know what one of them looks like. Besides, as soon as I own it, the slab will be distroyed anyway.

Fletcher · February 12, 2006 12:37PM

Since I mostly buy DMPL Morgans, and only PCGS slabbed, I always have to look at the slab. Not to prove that the coin is actually certified, but because I don't buy DMPLs in old green holders. The standards were not as tight for the mirrors.

Cladiator · February 12, 2006 1:53PM

In my auctions you get a minimum of 4 photos. 1 close up of each side and 1 long shot of the coin and slab for each side. If it's an interesting variety you'll also get super close ups of the areas of interest. Good quality photos and multiple photos are the single easiest way to maximize your realized prices. It's been my experience that they make a huge difference.

BECOKA · February 12, 2006 2:04PM

Most people who show the slab make it impossible to see the coin. I usually do a close up of the coin and cut and paste the label from the slab to just above the coin. This allows for a larger more detailed coin image. If you have a slab pic then it takes a lot of space and makes the image size pretty large also.

p8nt · February 12, 2006 2:16PM

I want to see the coin in the slab as the slab can tell a lot in an image. You know what the slab should look like and so I use that as my basis of how accurate (or inaccurate) the pictures are. That being said, there are some people I will purchase from without seeing a slab.

lava · February 12, 2006 2:30PM

yes, seeing the slab is more informative

stman · February 12, 2006 2:50PM

<< <i>I want to see the coin in the slab as the slab can tell a lot in an image. You know what the slab should look like and so I use that as my basis of how accurate (or inaccurate) the pictures are. >>

I did this in another post concerning this issue. The slab is accurate in this image.... so is the coin?

Touchdown · February 12, 2006 2:56PM

If the price is right or a good buy I don't necceraily need to look at a pic. of the coin. The cert number alone would work. On expensive or coins that are selling for a premium and I am interested then I do ask for good quality pictures. If they do not provide them I usually bid alot less than I iwas planning too.

If, they don't show you the cert number no biggy. Sometimes they do it for Registry set purposes or so someone else won't steel the inf. form your auction.

Bochiman · February 12, 2006 3:07PM

<< <i>For an E-bay auction I will use 3 pics . the full front slab, close up coin obv. and coin rev.

Some people hide cert numbers so someone doesn't use it in a set as a phantom coin
assuming the purchaser does not register it. >>

There is another reason as well.....so many ebay scammers just copy the pic and "sell" the coin. So, if you leave in the whole cert#, it is easier for them.
If you blank out part of the number or the whole thing, then when someone asks them for the cert#, they won't be able to give it to them.

So, if you were a potential buyer and asked for the cert# and received it, you are more likely to trust that auction.
If you ask for it and don't receive it, you are more likely to know it is a fraud.

Good reason, if you ask me, to not show it....particularly on hotter/higher priced items.

ziggy29 · February 12, 2006 11:06PM

Depends on how much I trust the seller. Usually when I sell a slabbed coin, I take one picture of the coin in the slab and then closeups without the label.

OffMetal · February 12, 2006 11:21PM

I normally don't pay attention whether it's slabbed or not...

...but my dad... ...must have everything slabbed... First question: Is it slabbed?

If it is in a slab and it does not say slabbed in the auction, I just consider it a bonus.

pharmer · February 12, 2006 11:42PM

I also do closeups of the obv and rev, and a full image of the slab. Before I started selling, I wondered why some sellers didn't include the slab image. Now, when I'm imaging for a listing, the thought of actually going out of my way not to include a slab image, the easiest one, is ludicrous. I can't imagine what's going through people's minds when they do that.

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Conder101 · February 12, 2006 11:46PM

Yes I do, and it frustrates me that so many people do not show both sides of the slab.

Of course I'm looking to see if I need the slab and not the coin.

keets · February 13, 2006 12:15AM

i always like to see the coin pictured in the slab along with a close-up of both sides of the coin. the insert can tell a lot with it's color and generation.

For an PCGS or NGC eBay auction, do you look for a pic in the slab?

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