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Updated Feb.7th: Guess the grade and whether it's NT or AT?

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    The Eagle's breast looks very clean, but I believe I see fine scratchs in Liberty's hair. AU58 although it might get an MS63 market grade.

    The toning is deep, but again, these are often found with heavy toning. NT




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    bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    NT and MS65.image
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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt

    Well?
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    IT LOOKS ( AT ) AU-58 strong strike
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    From the just concluded Goldberg sale:

    "Lot 1457 1795 Flowing Hair Half Dollar. ANACS graded AU-58 Details. Artificially toned. Regardless of ANACS designation, this is a very choice Mint State example, well struck and free from adjustment marks and other defects. This beauty has lots of "meat". Close inspection is urged and a coin that should stir considerable bidder interest among type collectors. The present coin is immensely appealing, and we recommend that anyone interested in acquiring an especially nice piece for a type set or a specialized collection contemplate this piece at some length. It certainly is one of the nicest of its year to pass under our view (PCGS # 6052).
    Estimated Value $15,000-17,500.
    Realized $24,000"
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    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    I get partial credit then (AU-58 was correct) but I still say NT image
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    TTT in case any inquiring minds missed it.

    By the way, the reported price realized of $27,600 (including the buyer's premium), equates approximately with that of an MS60 to MS62 example (edited to add: likely closer to the lower end of that grade range).
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    AT, eh? Who am I to question ANACS's professional opinion? In any event, that coin is desireable to me. Not sure that this AT example is worth that much of a bump in price, but obviously someone did, and that's all that really matters in the end...Mike
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    ERER Posts: 7,345
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ANACS graded AU-58 Details. Artificially toned. >>



    What do I win? image

    Russ, NCNE
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I was going to say AT (really), but I have not had a chance to respond. I did not have any scientific or educated reasoning for it, but it just didn't look right (although I did have a 50/50 chance). I would have been way off on the grade though. I was thinking MS-65.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Realized $24,000

    so, what kind of grade does that price equal on a "net" basis?

    as in, what kind of problem free coin can you get for 24K?

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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    <<so, what kind of grade does that price equal on a "net" basis?

    as in, what kind of problem free coin can you get for 24K?>>

    Baley, please see my previous post on that very matter. image
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    dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    I completely disagree with ANACS opinion on the grade of AU58. I've seen pieces of tis date in PCGS and NGC MS62 or better holders that had more cabinet friction or very slight wear on the high points. I think the strike and overall quality of the planchet is also exceptional for that date.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ah, very nice. thank you!

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am surprised by a 58 grade... that does not work for me. The toning issue needs to be seen to be completely understood. As for ANACS... I think I will pass on commenting further.

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    Thanks for posting this Mark. Definitely one of the most interesting "guess the grade" threads-well, ever. What are your opinions of the grade/toning? If the ANACS graders were correct-who/what/when/how/why on the AT?
    Don
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for posting this Mark. Definitely one of the most interesting "guess the grade" threads-well, ever. What are your opinions of the grade/toning? If the ANACS graders were correct-who/what/when/how/why on the AT? >>

    Thanks for your comment Don. I, too, thought it was an especially interesting "guess the grade" candidate. I did not see it in person, but from the images, the color looks questionable, though the coin looks to have unc. details. Hopefully, I would have the same thoughts without knowing ANACS' assessment.image

    Some questioned why such a coin would have been messed with. The answer is that an unc. example is worth far more than an AU one. So, if the coin were AU in terms of wear, an effort which gave it the appearance of a mint state piece could add considerably ($10,000 plus) to its "value".
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    << <i>ANACS graded AU-58 Details. Artificially toned. >>



    What do I win? image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    say Russ ; how many ANACS slabbed fake toned coins have YOU got into PCGS holders ?? image

    And congrats on pegging this one right on the money !

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