Very, very weakly struck PCGS MS 1945-S Walking liberty half

fivecents · February 4, 2006 9:30AM

I submitted it because I thought it was cool. PCGS graded this one MS62. It's so weakly struck, it looks like a mint error.

GAT · February 4, 2006 9:33AM

Doesn't look much like my PCGS MS64.99999999999!

100proof1957 · February 4, 2006 9:33AM

Dats da worst 45 S i have ever seen !

cullenbryant · February 4, 2006 9:42AM

wow

Burks · February 4, 2006 9:44AM

Wow. I can't believe that went for a 62!

BigD5 · February 4, 2006 9:45AM

Looks like some of the weakly struck Buffalo Nickels. I've had some of these, and if te luster is there, they'll grade as high as 64 even that weakly struck.

jayboxx · February 4, 2006 10:14AM

I think they were striking by hand that day

PerryHall · February 4, 2006 8:36PM

That is really neat.

50cents · February 4, 2006 8:44PM

Nice find

ChangeInHistory · February 4, 2006 10:18PM

I guess that adds fuel to the debate of "How high can a very weakly struck coin grade?"

leothelyon · February 5, 2006 12:50AM

<< I guess that adds fuel to the debate of "How high can a very weakly struck coin grade?" >>

Believe me! They go all the way up to MS67! An XF has more detail than this! What gives?

Leo

Shamika · February 5, 2006 1:19AM

These super weak strikes are facinating indeed.

segoja · February 5, 2006 1:49AM

I think you have the finest known.....worst strike.

Its so bad its cool!!!!

TorinoCobra71 · February 5, 2006 1:51AM

I have a 1940-S that looks almost exactly like that. Its also in a PCGS 62 holder.......

TorinoCobra71

SUPERCARCOINS · February 5, 2006 2:36AM

......see ......proven PCGS consistancy !!

bhartman35 · February 5, 2006 3:49AM

The fact that a coin like that could be slabbed MS-62 almost makes me believe that the grading system is useless. I mean, I know the PCGS grading standard for MS-62 says "strike may not be full", but that's freakin' ridiculous! I'm almost afraid to buy a PCGS coin, if that's going to be the standard...

Frankcoins · February 5, 2006 4:00AM

Looks like the correct grade, however I would not want it.

Shamika · February 5, 2006 4:47AM

<< The fact that a coin like that could be slabbed MS-62 almost makes me believe that the grading system is useless. I mean, I know the PCGS grading standard for MS-62 says "strike may not be full", but that's freakin' ridiculous! I'm almost afraid to buy a PCGS coin, if that's going to be the standard... >>

I tend to agree. The coins like these should be graded MS60. It's amazing they even made it out of the mint looking like this. Still, anyone who would buy such a coin likely doesn't care if it's a 60, 62, 64, or whatever.

fivecents · February 5, 2006 9:46PM

<< An XF has more detail than this! What gives? >>

This coin is lacking all center detail, but you really need to see the coin in hand. The blazing mint luster is off the scale, even on the weakly struck area. It is a nobrainer mintstate coin. It is also fairly mark free.
I bought it at a show raw for $18, so it was priced right. I knew when I bought it that I was going to be sending it to PCGS.
Next weird coin I will be submitting will be a PO01(I hope) 1971-D Ike dollar.

leothelyon · February 6, 2006 10:05AM

<< 

<< An XF has more detail than this! What gives? >>

This coin is lacking all center detail, but you really need to see the coin in hand. The blazing mint luster is off the scale, even on the weakly struck area. It is a nobrainer mintstate coin. It is also fairly mark free.
I bought it at a show raw for $18, so it was priced right. I knew when I bought it that I was going to be sending it to PCGS.
Next weird coin I will be submitting will be a PO01(I hope) 1971-D Ike dollar. >>

I was questioning the certification of your coin, not your preference in collecting. Over the years, I have accumulated a few similar coins with gross missing details. Jefferson nickels in particular, some with partial buildings, missing noses, hair, letters and so on. Eventually I'll add a slew of pictures in my profile but what's amazing is that these coins have found their way into the upper grades and that's what kills the integrity of our hobby!

Happy collecting!

Leo

fivecents · April 24, 2007 9:26PM

Fellow board member 50cent ask to see an image of one my weakly struck walker. So I decided to TTT this thread.

50cents · July 25, 2008 11:42AM

Now this Walker has a weak strike

OnlyGoldIsMoney · July 25, 2008 11:48AM

That one is even worse than a very poorly struck 1941-S ICG MS 63 I once owned.

291fifth · July 25, 2008 12:05PM

It should have been rejected because of the strike. Coins like that diminish even blue sheet values.

21Walker · July 25, 2008 12:40PM

Here's my take on it. First off I would never submit this coin to PCGS. I realize the weak strikes of walkers in the 40's especially from San Fran, but this one is nuts to be a 62. Heck, I you like it.........Enjoy........Rick

nicetoning42107 · July 25, 2008 12:56PM

<< I have a 1940-S that looks almost exactly like that. Its also in a PCGS 62 holder.......

TorinoCobra71 >>

Yep, I've seen a pancake 1940-S also. In a PCGS MS60 holder. Looked like about the weakness of the OP coin if I remember correctly.

oreville · July 25, 2008 2:32PM

Who cares whether it was a PCGS MS-60, 61 or 62?

It would have been an awesome coin had the leg below the knee had not been struck pretty well!

Believe it or not there are some of us who LOVE those awful walkers.

You see, having a set of the worst struck walkers go very well with the set of the best struck walkers.

Having PCGS MS-60 walkers next to the PCGS MS-68 walkers is awesome to observe!!

leothelyon · July 26, 2008 9:40AM

<< Who cares whether it was a PCGS MS-60, 61 or 62?

It would have been an awesome coin had the leg below the knee had not been struck pretty well!

Believe it or not there are some of us who LOVE those awful walkers.

You see, having a set of the worst struck walkers go very well with the set of the best struck walkers.

Having PCGS MS-60 walkers next to the PCGS MS-68 walkers is awesome to observe!! >>

Ok......Oreville, interesting thought, you should probably come down off the bar table now....it's closing time!

Seriously though, is it a weak strike or did something else happen? What I see, is alot of unstruck planchet areas but yet alot of detail in others. Could this be another type of error but yet undiscovered....... something like a "mis-struck planchet" or an "improperly rolled planchet", has it been weighed?

I submitted it because I thought it was cool. PCGS graded this one MS62. It's so weakly struck, it looks like a mint error.

You're probably right but learning what caused it is the key!

Leo

Tvac897 · July 26, 2008 10:00AM

that's nuts.

oreville · July 26, 2008 10:10AM

Tvac:

Try to collect a whole series of PAT walkers (no body walkers (not nobody walkers))!

Meaning the body of Liberty is one which becomes one mushy obverse in which you detect no body at all nor could you detect the sex of Liberty walkers.

The 1940-S walkers reached the pinnacle of producing them.

The "PAT" is the PAT of Saturday Night Live in which you could not figure out if PAT was a man or a woman.

LeeBone · July 26, 2008 4:13PM

62??

A terrible strike indeed

mustanggt · July 27, 2008 4:35AM

That Walker may redefine week strike..

Connecticoin · October 7, 2008 6:26AM

<< I submitted it because I thought it was cool. PCGS graded this one MS62. It's so weakly struck, it looks like a mint error.

>>

I agree, this is kind of cool. I saw an 84-O morgan once that looked like that -- it was so weak it was missing detail in the center, but still had full cartwheels.

Very, very weakly struck PCGS MS 1945-S Walking liberty half

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