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Problems with my Nikon coolpix 4600.

My pictures keep turning out very blurry with this camera. I dont know what causes it. It is focused perfectly on the screen and then when I take the pics and upload them to my computer they are extremely blurry. This only happens when I turn the flash off, though and I need the flash off to take pictures of coins. Is there a way to correct this?

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    What setup are you using?

    My first thought is that you're getting jiggle when pushing the shutter release button. That's why I use the timed release.

    Sencond thought. Copystands help a lot, don't know if you have one.

    Third thought. Weak lights mean slow shutter which has more chance of getting jiggle on the images.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there any delay between pushing the shutter button and the camera taking the picture? If so, then the camera is probably moving during exposure.
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  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    yes there is dicky,....but your not gonna want to hear it!



    get a SLR....(mine is a D70-S).... that way you look thru the lens and "see" exactly what the camera see's .

    there are cheaper ones that can be obtained ...like the D-50...that takes a great pix.image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    It also could be the aperature (the F number) you're using. If your camera has an aperature priority mode, use it and keep the aperature at 7 or higher. It will give you greater depth of field.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>get a SLR....(mine is a D70-S).... >>



    Or 10 Nikon Coolpix 950's.

    Russ, NCNE
  • I dont have a copy stand, but I just ordered one today. I am using two 20 watt hologen lamps. I may be jiggling a little when I shoot the picture.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Does the 4600 have a BSS, (Best Shot Selection), feature? If so, try using it until your copystand arrives.

    Russ, NCNE


  • << <i>Does the 4600 have a BSS, (Best Shot Selection), feature? If so, try using it until your copystand arrives.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Yea it does. I'll try that. What does it do?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yea it does. I'll try that. What does it do? >>



    Hold the shutter button down and it takes multiple shots, selecting only the best one to record.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Thats a pretty cool feature. I'll post back with results.
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>get a SLR....(mine is a D70-S).... >>



    Or 10 Nikon Coolpix 950's.

    Russ, NCNE >>




    yeah you could do that too.image
  • This might be a stupid question, but do you have the camera set for close-ups? Maybe try the auto-focus setting also to see what that turns out like.
  • The BSS worked. Thanks Russ. I just need to play around with my lighting so its not too dark. I hold the camera about and inch away from the coin so its hard for the light to get in there.

    image
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    Are you leaning on the shelf or desk? I found that I lean to see the viewer and am actually slightly bumping the shelf the setup is on.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Dicky,

    The problem is probably not with your camera. The problem is more likely camera shake and/or shutter vibration...using shutter delay and/or getting a good copy stand or tripod is probably the solution.

    In flash photography, the flash "freezes" the frame with a burst of light of very short duration, whereas in macro photography the shutter speed is what "freezes" the frame and is many, many times longer than the burst of light from a flash. Thus a camera movement that would go unnoticed in flash photography will cause a huge amount of blurriness in macro photograhpy.

    Most likely one of two things is causing this. First is camera shake. If you are hand-holding the camera, this could be causing the problem. The solution would be to get a tripod or copy stand. If you are using your finger to press the shutter (without using shutter delay or timer mode on your camera), this could also be causing the problem. The solution would be to get a remote shutter release or use the "timer mode" or "shutter delay" or similar feature. Timer mode simply allows you to insert a second or more between the time you press the shutter release and when the picture is taken. The "shutter delay" feature is very similar to "timer" but generally is a much shorter delay.

    Second in shutter vibration. Many cameras have shutters that physically move to open and close off light to the sensor. I'm not sure your camera does or not, but if you feel something moving inside the camera and hear the classic shutter sound when you press the shutter, you have a mechanical shutter. One of the drawbacks of mechanical shutters is that they cause vibration, often seen as blurriness in photos. The solution is to use a feature called "shutter delay" or "timer" described above. If this feature is not available, a good tripod or a good copy stand will help dampen the vibrations. If the tripod and/or copy stand still aren't solving the poblem, another method to stop these types of vibrations, believe it or not, is to rest your hand on the camera as your hand will also help to dampen the vibrations.

    Personally, to ensure good sharp coin photos I use a good tripod and a remote shutter release. I also have "shutter delay" enabled on my camera.

    Hope this helps...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I hold the camera about and inch away from the coin so its hard for the light to get in there. >>



    Getting better. Try moving back as far away from the coin as you can and still get good photos. The additional height will allow you to place the lights at a higher angle to the plane of the coin and more evenly illuminate it as a result...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • Thanks everyone for the. I figure it must be my hands shaking while I take the picture. I have a copystand on the way that should help that. My camera does have a timer mode and I will probably use that once I get the copystand. Right now I seem to be having success with the BSS mode that Russ told me about. As you can see in my pic it is no longer blurry. I just have to adjust my lighting a little.

  • Does anybody hold classes on how to use your camera and take coin pictures? I even offered to pay roundtrip plane fare, rental car, and hotel accomadations and still couldn't get anybody to help....and that's on top of paying them for teaching my wife and I what we need to know. I hope you get your's working right for you. I haven't even unwrapped my Christmas present cause I know it's a camera and I don't want to bum out yet.



    Jerry
  • An inch seems awfully close. I have a 4300 and I stay about 4 to 6 inches away, use the optical zoom a little bit and it leaves me plenty of room to light the coin well with 2 or 3 gooseneck lamps and still get nice detail. Here is a shot of a cent I took out of the change jar.

    Large size:
    http://www.stujoe.com/pictest/lmlo.jpg

    Small size:
    http://www.stujoe.com/pictest/lmso.jpg


    My homemade setup (camera sits ont eh angle iron pointing straight down)
    http://www.stujoe.com/pictest/setup.jpg

    Edited to fix links as usual...
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  • Hobbyist,

    Those pics look pretty good. I just need to keep trying different things until I get it right.


  • << <i>Hobbyist,

    Those pics look pretty good. I just need to keep trying different things until I get it right. >>



    That is the best thing you can do! Learn your camera and try a bunch of different lighting and camera setups until you tweak it in how you like it.
    Time sure flies when you don't know what you're doing...
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey, Dicky - happy New Year!

    1 inch seems a little close - i'm using the 3700 and shoot at about 6-7 inches. I'm playing with it to stay within the optical magnification and away from the digital... In an earlier thread mgoodm3 pointed out that more is better when it comes to light... I'm trying to sort that part out with more indirect bulk lighting. I think that most of your problem is hand shake, you need more room between your lens and the object, and more light to get a higher shutter speed. Get yourself a copy stand ASAP. You may find out that a remote shutter release isn't necessary. Have fun - I wish that I had more free time to play with my setup...

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