TPG ACG ROCKS?

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a039
a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭
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Hello, I had to see if they are the least bit legitimate. And there was a very cheap auction HERE Yes the shipping was high but it cost them about $2.50 to ship.(very fast shipping and great service) The coin is not only fairly graded but conservatively graded! The holder is a POS but the coin is right. Anyone else try this TPG out? There could be some good deals out there on some higher graded stuff. I also purchased a NGC MS 67 Red That MIGHT cross...Anyway just curious. Merry Christmas! Mark

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  • LucyBop
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    Chuck Berry Rocks!
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    Doing a Search may answer some of your questions about ACG.
  • Deadhorse
    Deadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭
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    Oh brother!

    Sold for 10 cents ought to give you a clue.

    $5.95 shipping and no insurance offered.

    .......whew..... This has potential for an interesting read.

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  • Myqqy
    Myqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
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    ACG ROCKS?

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  • a039
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    << <i>Oh brother!

    Sold for 10 cents ought to give you a clue.

    $5.95 shipping and no insurance offered.

    .......whew..... This has potential for an interesting read. >>



    << <i>Text >>

    TextText I was just doing an experiment and was very surprised to get a coin that was correctly graded. I was just sharing that with the forum and seeing if anyone else had done the same. So I did receive the coin so what did you mean by your post? It appears that your are the unhappy result of a union between a horse and a mule! Mark
  • GAT
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    Are you a Troll or been smoking some funny stuff?
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  • Myqqy
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    It appears that your are the unhappy result of a union between a horse and a mule! Mark

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  • itsnotjustme
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    So you paid $6 for a $1 coin and you are happy? The ACG holder does you no good... might as well be raw. A raw MS64RD is not worth what you paid.

    You could have had a MS66RD in PCGS holder for $20 including shipping.
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  • Conder101
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    A lot of people here say "buy the coin, not the holder" but they only really mean it if the coin is already in one of the "proper" holders, or to a lesser extent if it is in one of the second tier holders. If it is an ACG holder, a lot of these folks are so biased against them that they wouldn't approve even if you had picked up a genuine SVDB for that price. They consider ACG slabs to be work of the antichrist.
  • TorinoCobra71
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    << <i>Are you a Troll or been smoking some funny stuff? >>



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  • PerryHall
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    << <i>Are you a Troll or been smoking some funny stuff? >>



    I would give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's clueless.

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  • nwcs
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    When I saw the thread I thought it meant that ACG was certifying rocks. Heck, there are times I want to know what kind of feldspar something is.
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  • GoYankees
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    << <i>ACG ROCKS?

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    Are they slabbing rocks now?

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  • coppercoins
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    << <i>So you paid $6 for a $1 coin and you are happy? The ACG holder does you no good... might as well be raw. A raw MS64RD is not worth what you paid.

    You could have had a MS66RD in PCGS holder for $20 including shipping. >>



    I was thinking quite the same thing, only far cheaper. A whole roll of 1955S cents in BU is around $20, and that's if you're unlucky enough to pay full retail for them. That's 40 cents each. His coin is worth no more than 50 cents and the shipping was ten times that.
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  • questor54
    questor54 Posts: 1,351 ✭
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    The auction listing refers to Dr. Shelby and the 70 point system. If they want to be taken seriously they should know it is Sheldon, not Shelby.
  • DenverDave
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    << <i>A lot of people here say "buy the coin, not the holder" but they only really mean it if the coin is already in one of the "proper" holders, or to a lesser extent if it is in one of the second tier holders. If it is an ACG holder, a lot of these folks are so biased against them that they wouldn't approve even if you had picked up a genuine SVDB for that price. They consider ACG slabs to be work of the antichrist. >>


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    << <i>A lot of people here say "buy the coin, not the holder" but they only really mean it if the coin is already in one of the "proper" holders, or to a lesser extent if it is in one of the second tier holders. If it is an ACG holder, a lot of these folks are so biased against them that they wouldn't approve even if you had picked up a genuine SVDB for that price. They consider ACG slabs to be work of the antichrist. >>



    The people who own ACG have been so nasty to so many people in the coin business that they don't deserve any breaks. I've sold one ACG coin (it was actually a Hard Time token) in my life, but I cracked it out before I sold it. AND ACG actually get the grade right. image

    Still ACG is ON THE rocks so far as I'm concerned.
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  • shirohniichan
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    << <i>

    << <i>A lot of people here say "buy the coin, not the holder" but they only really mean it if the coin is already in one of the "proper" holders, or to a lesser extent if it is in one of the second tier holders. If it is an ACG holder, a lot of these folks are so biased against them that they wouldn't approve even if you had picked up a genuine SVDB for that price. They consider ACG slabs to be work of the antichrist. >>



    The people who own ACG have been so nasty to so many people in the coin business that they don't deserve any breaks. I've sold one ACG coin (it was actually a Hard Time token) in my life, but I cracked it out before I sold it. AND ACG actually get the grade right. image

    Still ACG is ON THE rocks so far as I'm concerned. >>



    I don't know if their slabs are the work of Antichrist, but perhaps the work of the False Prophet or the Beast.

    If I found a decent coin in an ACG slab I'd buy it, but the chances are slim. A broken clock is right two times a day, though.
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  • Scioto
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    ACG grades rocks?

    How igneous!
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  • mozin
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    ACG deserves to have rocks thrown at it.image
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    << <i>When I saw the thread I thought it meant that ACG was certifying rocks. Heck, there are times I want to know what kind of feldspar something is. >>



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  • Russ
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    a039,

    Don't listen to these people. ACG is the most consistent grading service in the business.

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  • BlindedByEgo
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    << <i>ACG grades rocks?

    How igneous! >>



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    Hey ma, I finally got one without anybody 'splaining it to me.

    ACG is the spawn of Satan.

    You got rooked.

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  • lordmarcovan
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    I too thought somebody had some rocks for sale in an ACG holder. image




    Ten cents! That shows how much weight ACG's reputation is carrying these days!

    The coin probably would've fetched more money raw.

    Note that this seller used the #2 most common tactic of folks selling Third World slabs- mention that it's "certified" in the title, but don't mention by whom.


    Ten cents would've been a decent deal if the coin were truly UNC and not a cleaned AU (I can't tell from the pics, and you never know with ACG and the others of that ilk). But $5.95 shipping makes it a dealbreaker.

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  • ColonialCoinUnion
    ColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
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    The coin shown in the auction isn't actually inside the holder, is it? It appears to be photoshopped or manually placed on top of the holder.

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  • dpoole
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    << <i>Don't listen to these people. ACG is the most consistent grading service in the business. >>



    Russ is our disingenuous genius.

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  • sinin1
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    if you stay with stuff that costs less than 10 bucks, you can't lose more than 10 bucks


    glued on mintmarks (that fell off), counterfeit coins, badly cleaned coins, overgraded high end coins

    all occur in ACG slabs (as may occur in any TPG - but difference in how service handles it)
  • a039
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    I have been PM"d with some information of some"history" here with this TPG I was unaware of. I have hundreds of pcgs slabs and was doing an experiment. I DID NOT think I was getting a deal. Just checking out someone I was unfamiliar with. I apologize for suggesting you resemble the south side of a north bound cow. Mark
  • Deadhorse
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    << <i>I have been PM"d with some information of some"history" here with this TPG I was unaware of. I have hundreds of pcgs slabs and was doing an experiment. I DID NOT think I was getting a deal. Just checking out someone I was unfamiliar with. I apologize for suggesting you resemble the south side of a north bound cow. Mark >>



    Merry Christmas to you as well.
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    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • razorface1027
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    Welcome, Mark. Yeah, you'll definately get heckled at the mere mention of ACG in this forum. In short...ACG SUX. However, out of let's say 10,000 slabbed ACG coins, it is remotely possible that you'll find one that crosses into one of the top tier grading companies' slabs. I found a 1897-O Morgan dollar in a ACG slab some years back graded by ACG as MS-63. I paid $498.00, sent it to ANACS and got it back in a MS-62 slab. Once in a lifetime man! image Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.image



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