63 Topps FB set value

JValjean · December 13, 2005 12:48AM

Gentlemen, new to the boards as a poster, but not a day goes by I don't read these boards. I have alot of respect for opinions here, this is the heart of the hobby. With 2 kids in college and 1 in private HS, it's time to part with my registery set. I have the #3 1963 FB set, under "Bobby D's 63's". I would like to solicit offers from board memebers first. You can email me. If you aren't interested in buying the set, I would still like you opinion on two topic's - the sets value, and other than listing it here, the best process for selling it. Thanks everyone.

JValjean · December 13, 2005 12:51AM

Sorry guys' the set is under "Javert's 63's"

carew4me · December 13, 2005 3:41AM

With the amount of new blood chasing that set I would definetly break it up.

Start by listing all 9-10's as seperate auctions and move those.

Then list all of the good 8's (HOFers, Rookies)

Then maybe some team set groupings.

Finally a single auction to move whats left.

AkbarClone · December 13, 2005 4:30AM

A fan of "Les Miserables" are we?

Breaking up the set is what I would recommend, as well.

JValjean · December 13, 2005 4:35AM

Yes, it's an early and enduring love, started back in the early 70's with the book.

thefootballcardstore · December 13, 2005 5:00AM

Breaking it up would be best. Lots of interest in those cards. Also, it is my personal favorite from the 60s. Love the colors, some of those cards are very rare. Knowing what you have into a lot of those cards, you would probably stand to make a very nice profit in auction.

Good luck@!

spacktrack · December 13, 2005 5:10AM

I would break it up and also turn on PMs so that interested board members could contact you about singles.

SKINSFAN · December 13, 2005 11:19PM

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A CHUNK OF THEM

JValjean · December 14, 2005 3:09AM

Could someone please do me a favor and post the current SMR value of this set, I've had a number of people reference it, but I'm not a current member.

IJustLoveCards · December 14, 2005 3:14AM

No Description EX5 EXMT6 NM7 NMMT8 MT9
2 Lenny Moore (HOF) 10 15 22 60 225
Singles: 1-170 3 4 10 25 85
Short Prints: 5 8 14 30 115
Team Cards: 4 6 12 26 90
Short Print Teams: 5 8 15 32 120
1 Johnny Unitas (HOF) 40 75 135 325 2200
2 Lenny Moore (HOF) 5 9 16 35 135
3 Jimmy Orr 3 4 10 25 85
4 Raymond Berry (HOF) 5 9 16 35 135
5 Jim Parker 3 4 10 25 85
6 Alex Sandusky 3 4 10 25 85
7 Dick Szymanski 3 4 10 25 85
8 Gino Marchetti 4 6 12 28 115
9 Billy Ray Smith 3 4 10 25 85
10 Bill Pellington 3 4 10 25 85
11 Bob Boyd 3 4 10 25 85
12 Baltimore Colts team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
13 Frank Ryan (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
14 Jim Brown SP (HOF) 75 125 215 410 2250
15 Ray Renfro (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
16 Rich Kreitling (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
17 Mike McCormack (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
18 Jim Ray Smith (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
19 Lou Groza SP (HOF) 10 15 28 55 175
20 Bill Glass (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
21 Galen Fiss (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
22 Don Fleming (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
23 Bob Gain (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
24 Cleveland Browns team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
25 Milt Plum 3 4 10 25 85
26 Dan Lewis 3 4 10 25 85
27 Nick Pietrosante 3 4 10 25 85
28 Gail Cogdill 3 4 10 25 85
29 Harley Sewell 3 4 10 25 85
30 Jim Gibbons 3 4 10 25 85
31 Carl Brettschneider 3 4 10 25 85
32 Dick Lane 4 6 12 28 115
33 Yale Lary 4 6 12 28 115
34 Roger Brown 3 4 10 25 85
35 Joe Schmidt 4 6 12 28 115
36 Detroit Lions team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
37 Roman Gabriel 5 9 15 35 135
38 Zeke Bratkowski 3 4 10 25 85
39 Dick Bass 3 4 10 25 85
40 Jon Arnett 3 4 10 25 85
41 Jim Phillips 3 4 10 25 85
42 Frank Varrichione 3 4 10 25 85
43 Danny Villanueva 3 4 10 25 85
44 Deacon Jones (R) (HOF) 18 30 55 115 375
45 Lindon Crow 3 4 10 25 85
46 Marlin McKeever 3 4 10 25 85
47 Ed Meador 3 4 10 25 85
48 Los Angeles Rams team 4 6 12 26 90
49 Y.A. Tittle SP (HOF) 18 30 55 115 375
50 Del Shofner (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
51 Alex Webster (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
52 Phil King (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
53 Jack Stroud (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
54 Darrell Dess (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
55 Jim Katcavage (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
56 Roosevelt Grier (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
57 Erich Barnes (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
58 Jim Patton (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
59 Sam Huff SP (HOF) 10 14 25 55 185
60 New York Giants team 4 6 12 26 90
61 Bill Wade 3 4 10 25 85
62 Mike Ditka (HOF) 22 40 75 135 400
63 Johnny Morris 3 4 10 25 85
64 Roger LeClerc 3 4 10 25 85
65 Roger Davis 3 4 10 25 85
66 Joe Marconi 3 4 10 25 85
67 Herman Lee 3 4 10 25 85
68 Doug Atkins 4 6 12 28 115
69 Joe Fortunato 3 4 10 25 85
70 Bill George 4 6 12 28 115
71 Richie Petitbon 3 4 10 25 85
72 Chicago Bears team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
73 Eddie LeBaron (SP) 5 9 18 40 150
74 Don Meredith SP 20 35 55 110 350
75 Don Perkins (SP) 5 9 18 40 150
76 Amos Marsh (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
77 Bill Howton (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
78 Andy Cverko (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
79 Sam Baker (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
80 Jerry Tubbs (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
81 Don Bishop (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
82 Bob Lilly SP (R) (HOF) 50 85 150 285 1350
83 Jerry Norton (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
84 Cowboy's Team SP 10 15 28 55 185
85 Checklist 10 14 25 55 185
86 Bart Starr (HOF) 20 35 60 120 550
87 Jim Taylor (HOF) 10 18 30 60 225
88 Boyd Dowler 4 6 12 28 115
89 Forrest Gregg 4 6 12 28 115
90 Fuzzy Thurston 4 6 12 28 115
91 Jim Ringo 4 6 12 28 115
92 Ron Kramer 3 4 10 25 85
93 Hank Jordan 4 6 12 28 115
94 Bill Forester 3 4 10 25 85
95 Willie Wood (R) (HOF) 14 22 40 75 250
96 Ray Nitschke (R) (HOF) 30 55 95 165 750
97 Green Bay Packers team 5 9 15 35 150
98 Fran Tarkenton (HOF) 22 40 70 150 850
99 Tommy Mason 3 4 10 25 85
100 Mel Triplett 3 4 10 25 85
101 Jerry Reichow 3 4 10 25 85
102 Frank Youso 3 4 10 25 85
103 Hugh McElhenny (HOF) 5 10 15 35 135
104 Gerry Huth 3 4 10 25 85
105 Ed Sharockman 3 4 10 25 85
106 Rip Hawkins 3 4 10 25 85
107 Jim Marshall (R) 12 18 35 60 225
108 Jim Prestel 3 4 10 25 85
109 Minnesota Vikings team 4 6 12 26 90
110 Sonny Jurgenson SP (HOF) 14 22 45 125 400
111 Tim Brown (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
112 Tommy McDonald (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
113 Clarence Peaks (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
114 Pete Retzlaff (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
115 Jim Schrader (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
116 Jim McCusker (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
117 Don Burroughs (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
118 Maxie Baughan (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
119 Riley Gunnels (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
120 Jimmy Carr (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
121 Philadelphia Eagles team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
122 Ed Brown (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
123 John Henry Johnson SP (HOF) 8 15 24 50 185
124 Buddy Dial (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
125 Red Mack (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
126 Preston Carpenter (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
127 Ray Lemek (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
128 Buzz Nutter (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
129 Ernie Stautner SP (HOF) 8 15 24 50 185
130 Lou Michaels (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
131 Clendon Thomas (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
132 Tom Bettis (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
133 Pittsburgh Steelers team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
134 John Brodie 5 9 16 35 135
135 J.D. Smith 3 4 10 25 85
136 Bill Kilmer 4 6 12 28 115
137 Bernie Casey 3 4 10 25 85
138 Tommy Davis 3 4 10 25 85
139 Ted Connolly 3 4 10 25 85
140 Bob St. Clair 4 6 12 28 115
141 Abe Woodson 3 4 10 25 85
142 Matt Hazeltine 3 4 10 25 85
143 Leo Nomellini 4 6 12 28 115
144 Dan Colchico 3 4 10 25 85
145 San Francisco 49ers team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
146 Charlie Johnson 5 9 16 35 135
147 John David Crow 3 4 10 25 85
148 Bobby Joe Conrad 3 4 10 25 85
149 Sonny Randle 3 4 10 25 85
150 Prentice Gautt 3 4 10 25 85
151 Taz Anderson 3 4 10 25 85
152 Ernie McMillan 3 4 10 25 85
153 Jimmy Hill 3 4 10 25 85
154 Bill Koman 3 4 10 25 85
155 Larry Wilson (R) (HOF) 14 22 40 75 225
156 Don Owens 3 4 10 25 85
157 St. Louis Cardinals team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
158 Norm Snead (SP) 5 9 18 35 135
159 Bobby Mitchell (HOF) 8 12 20 55 185
160 Billy Barnes (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
161 Fred Dugan (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
162 Don Bosseler (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
163 John Nisby (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
164 Riley Mattson (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
165 Bob Toneff (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
166 Rod Breedlove (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
167 Dick James (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
168 Claud Crabb (SP) 5 8 14 30 115
169 Washington Redskins team (SP) 5 8 15 32 120
170 Checklist 20 35 55 125 500
a PSA Mint 9 Unitas sold for $4,025 and a Mint 9 Tarkenton sold for $2,530 in 2003

IJustLoveCards · December 14, 2005 3:15AM

Just a point, I would imagine low pop cards would sell well in excess of smr, REMEMBER SMR IS A GUIDE...GUIDE being the optimal word!!!

JValjean · December 14, 2005 3:22AM

Thanks for the response so fast, does the SMR Guide list an overall set value?

JasP24 · December 14, 2005 3:58AM

I'll take that PSA 8 Bob Lilly RC off your hands in a hurry...

Jason

wolfbear · December 14, 2005 3:26PM

Hey Bob - sorry to see you moving on.
You and I have both been working on this set for some time now.

SMR doesn't list a value for that entire set, you have to add up all the individual card values yourself,
but the heck with SMR on this, realistically I'd be thinking in terms of about 20 k as a market value for your set.

Been great dealing with you, good luck in your future ventures,
and don't let SKINSFAN steal that # 169 Redskins team photo in PSA 8 off you. I'll pay you much more for it than he will ...

MAD · December 14, 2005 4:09PM

Would really like to make an offer for the Nitschke...

MARC.

JValjean · December 14, 2005 11:17PM

Wolfbear, glad you commented, always alot of respect for your opinion. I think I'll probably start over and build the set in straight 7, I have about half of a second set in 7 as a result of upgrading over the years. As to the value, I recall the 3rd or 4th 62 set selling for over that amount about 18 months ago but I cannot find the auction, the overall set grade was around 7.5 - 7.6 maybe someone here recalls the auction. Anyway, I had a value of about $16,000 in my head when I started this process and you confirm that to be in the ballpark. Unless you've been collecting the set all along you really can't appreciate how difficult this set is to build above 8.0. I think after the first of the year I'll put this on ebay with an 18k reserve and see what happens, perhaps then onto an auction house if I can't find someone iterested between now and then.
Meanwhile, if anyone thinks we are nut's with our assesment of value - they can chime in.

SKINSFAN · December 15, 2005 1:14AM

BOB best of luck to you either way but i think you will get much more if you break it up as anyone who has tried this set knows the low pops are murder and will bring large $ on there own and sometimes get lost when selling as a whole set.

Another option is you really want to sell as a set to get it over with a 1 time is to maybe replace some of the real tough cards with sevens when you sell the set and then sell the hard cards on there own.

And dont listen to wolfbear he is just mad i beat him in fantasy football lol.

I have a bunch of extra sevens myself if you need some,best of luck and happy holidays

GO SKINS BEAT DALLAS DEAR SANTA THATS ALL I WANT FOR XMAS

jayhawke · December 17, 2005 9:35PM

I did a SMR value of the entire set and it was about 9K. I know SMR is just a guide, but that was value. It does seems low for this set.

wolfbear · December 19, 2005 6:10AM

<< <i>I did a SMR value of the entire set and it was about 9K. I know SMR is just a guide, but that was value. It does seems low for this set. >>

jayhawke - thanks for doing the math.

Just for a point of reference, in the May 2005 Mile High auction, the # 2 1962 Fleer football set on the registry sold for 3 times SMR.

zef204 · December 19, 2005 8:04AM

I'll take the Ditka. I hear its been going abouy 80% under SMR

bowdowntome · December 20, 2005 2:01AM

Do you have any of the tint variations among your PSA 7 dupes?

63 Topps FB set value

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