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Some 1840 half dimes, "P" mints

rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

The first pic below is a new (better) photo of the 1840 With Drapery, V-8, half dime I bought from JJ Teaparty a few weeks back, which was accurately graded at AU-58. The other coins are somewhat lower grade examples, but they are still nice in their own way. The 1840 No Drapery is one of the commonest half dimes of the era, readily available in Unc., so it is kind of ironic that I don't have a high grade No Drapery example to match the AU-58 With Drapery coin. It should be relatively easy to find one, however. The second coin below is a decent Fine, except that it shows evidence of having been slightly bent at one time, seen as an area of heavier wear on the lower right rim. I think I might send that one to ebay unless it turns out to be a scarce variety. The last coin pictured below is a beautifully toned VG that exhibits a prominent die crack through the "8" in the date, and the toning alone makes it worth keeping. See my other thread on the 1840 "O" mints if you liked these.

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Hey, you almost have enough to buy a paper.image (that would be my wife talking)
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Great stuff. Thanks for the pics.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, you almost have enough to buy a paper. (that would be my wife talking)


    Oh well, looks like I'll have to spend the "O" mints too.
  • Keep them coming!!! Enjoyable post(s)

    Dan
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  • Half dimes are my second favorite coins
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    I took another look at your 1840 half dimes, and reread your comments, and might be able to shed some light on the last coin you pictured, with the die crack through the 8 in the date. It appears to be an example of the V6 Shattered Obverse. If you look closely, however, you will see that the small die crack that is almost undetectable through the right side of the 8 in the date is actually a monster die crack that fully bisects the obverse. It runs from the rim at K6, up through the right side of the 8, across the base of the rock, up the right side of the shield, following the outside line of the shield, through Y of LIBERTY, across Miss Liberty's thigh, across the chest, up the hair behind the ear, and to the rim at K12. It is one of the more spectacularly shattered obverse dies seen for the series. (Obverse dies are less often seen with massive die breaks, cracks and cuds, because the obverse die was the hammer die [upper die], so broken pieces would simply fall out due to gravity, whereas the same damage to a reverse die would be held together by the collar).

    I have nine (9) examples of this die marriage in various die states (Bill Jones on this forum would kill me. He thinks that 'die variety collectors' do the hobby a disservice by 'hoarding' so many examples of a variety, but it is strictly for educational purposes!). I have a gorgeous AU-58 example that is a late die state which really shows the obverse die crack. Much less often seen is an even later die state, with a perpendicular die crack running from east to west, which absolutely quarters the obverse die. It is no wonder that this Very Late Die State (VLDS) is so rare. The die would have ended up in pieces on the coining room floor shortly after this last die crack developed.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only wish the last coin (V-6) was an Unc. piece so that the die crack would be more obvious. I suppose that's something to look for at the next show. Thanks again for the attribution.

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