EBAY bogus second chance coin offers...Lets fight back.

markglicker · December 10, 2005 2:58AM

I may have a solution. Every time that you receive a fake second chance offer, respond that you would like to buy the coin. Once they hear from you, it appears to take a significant amount of time and effort, for the scumbags to put the final offer together. Once they get back to you, let them know that you are on to them. If we overload them, perhaps they will move on, and leave us alone.

chabot510 · December 10, 2005 2:59AM

i just received 3 second chance offers for the same coin!

markglicker · December 10, 2005 3:06AM

A week or so ago, I got a real second chance offer, and blew it off as a fake (The real ones appear in your Ebay messages file). I didn't realize that it was legit until too late, and would have bought the coin.

RYK · December 10, 2005 3:11AM

I have done this once before, Mark. Someone in Bulgaria claimed that they owned the coin and that their girlfriend had possession of it in the US. They wanted me to send them money via Western Union or some such thing. We emailed back and forth a bit, and while it was amusing for a while, it was mostly a waste of time. Does anyone know someone who has been burned by one of these second chance offers?

BaronVonBaugh · December 10, 2005 3:40AM

I have only received one second chsnce offer. I bought it and it was the real deal. PR70DCAM 2002 Sac

markglicker · December 10, 2005 3:49AM

Does anyone know someone who has been burned by one of these second chance offers?

I do not know of anyone who has been burned, but I receive 3 to 5 emails a week, from underbidders who want to know if the offers are legit (I never use them). I figure that if that many think they might be ok, then at least a few, are falling for the scam.

jonathanb · December 10, 2005 3:55AM

Curiously, I've received 2 legit second-chance offers in the last two or three weeks (I've received the coins already, so they were definitely legit). I don't think I've ever received a bogus second-chance offer.

FWIW, in both cases the items were widgets, and my response to the seller was, "Since you obviously have two, is there any chance you have three?" One seller thought she did, but couldn't find the third. The other seller ended up selling me 9. There aren't too many times that it's good to come in second place, but that was one of them...

jonathan

markglicker · December 10, 2005 4:02AM

The bogus offers are for high priced coins. The ones I get, are for $1000 and up. It does take them time and effort, to put these things together.

itsnotjustme · December 10, 2005 4:08AM

I played along a bit on this one. The initial announcement had the e-bay look and feel, but did not show in my e-bay massages. Also, I wasn't second on the coin... I was abbout eigth! I thought about playing a little further but just dropped it. Read about scambaiters on the Internet for ideas on stringing these people along.

SCAMMER:
To start the official transaction you must reply with your name and shipping address in Belgium, so I could contact eBay to setup this transaction!

ME:
Yes… Please send a second chance offer through e-bay.

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From: jackson k [mailto:jackson37_79@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:14 AM
To: Jordan Family
Subject: RE: Second Chance Offer from Seller -- Buy The Item You Recently Bid On!

The final sales price would be your last bid amount (shipment and insurance included). To start the official transaction in a very protected way, please reply with your name and shipping addres s, so I could contact eBay to setup this transaction. As soon as I receive your info, I'll start the official procedure, and eBay will notify you about this. You'll receive important guidelines and instructions from them.
I need:
first name:
last name:
your address(shipping address):
city:
zip:
Looking forward to your reply.
Thank you.

Jordan Family <brian.jordan@telenet.be> wrote:
Yes… Please send a second chance offer through e-bay.

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From: jackson k [mailto:jackson37_79@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:56 PM
To: Jordan Family
Subject: RE: Second Chance Offer from Seller -- Buy The Item You Recently Bid On!

Are you st ill interested?

Jordan Family <brian.jordan@telenet.be> wrote:
Is this still available?

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From: jackson k [mailto:jackson37_79@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:16 PM
To: brian.jordan@telenet.be
Subject: Second Chance Offer from Seller -- Buy The Item You Recently Bid On!

< TR> Second Chance Offer -- Buy The Item You Recently Bid On

Good news! The following eBay item on which you placed a bid is again available for purchase at your last bid amount:

Secon d Chance Offer
Item Details

Item name: 1794 FLOWING HAIR HALF DIME PCGS VF 20
Item number: 8350064883
Bid Price: US $2,105.00

Don't let this get away!

The seller, is making this Second Chance Offer because the high bidder was either unable to complete the transaction or the seller has a duplicate item for sale.

The selling of this item through Second Chance Offer is in compliance with eBay policy and you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for all eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection.
eBay does not charge an Insertion Fee to send a Second Chance Offer. Sellers pay only the Final Value Fee when the offer is accepted.

Thank you!

Act Now - This Offer Expires Soon

To take advantage of this opportunity, please act quickly.
To see this item, click on the following page:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1794-FLOWING-HAIR-HALF-DIME-PCGS-VF-20_W0QQitemZ8350064883QQcategoryZ3357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
To purchase this item please contact the seller by replying to this email message.
To learn more about Second Chance Offer, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/second_chance_offer.html

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a039 · December 10, 2005 4:27AM

Its a shame that people do this as it prompts the sellers to have private auctions, I like to know who I am bidding against. I also have a deal with another cu member to avoid bidding against each other. I have a Rolex watch for sale on the Net and four people have tried to scam me out of it! The current one sent me a fake paypal "YOU GOT CASH" and wanted to have ups pick it up from my home, apparently so he did not have to give me his address. If a nice coin is getting bid up by a ebay newbie I email the seller and make an offer if the transaction does not take place instead of bidding against someone who is just having "fun" and running the price up. Take care, Mark

Did you know ebay has a category "Totally Bizarre" Only look if you are bored!(and wont outbid me)

EBAY bogus second chance coin offers...Lets fight back.

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