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December 11th is the 1 year anniversary of the WI Extra Leaf Quarters.

EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
I'll post some pics to honor the find by Bob Ford, here in Tucson.

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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A little over 100 sets of Wisconsin Extra Leaf Quarters were found by Bob Ford in December, 2004. Some of these were dispersed early on to local dealers and on ebay. Bob sold a set for $1.65 soon after his find; the collector who bought it was later featured in his local Livingston, NJ newspaper! Anyway, now the 100 sets he withheld are certified in three-piece sets by NGC.

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    Here is Bob Ford:

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I haven't seen any population reports in a while. Have they leveled out?
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  • The nespaper your refering to is my local paper. I remember reading the article and seeing how he was selling them for a measly dollar each on ebay! I bet he wishes that he saved them now.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We'll, Bob is the most generous and good natured guy you'd ever want to meet. He actually felt good for the guy who had bought it so cheap.

    On a sad note, although Bob did quite well with these quarters, he had a rough year as he lost his wife a few months ago.
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  • Does anyone besides me think that these were purposely made ?
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,751 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful pictures. Beautiful coins. Thanks.

    It has become highly improbable any more of these will hit the market. While there should
    still be several million coins in FED or mint warehouses, the simple fact is that varieties are
    normally released at a single or very few points over a very brief time window.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the past few weeks I was inundated with buy offers from a few dealers, and have since sold out of all my sets. I sold my remaining ones for close to retail to these dealers! I think there was some Christmas stocking up is going on. I still have a few Discovery sets, and they are moving out steadilly. They'd be gone by now, but I don't advertise them. I think they would have sold out for Christmas if I had.

    So, now, a year later the market has turned away from as local supply to a more national distribution.

    As for the Red Book, they have sworn me to keep any plans on listing it a secret.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,751 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In the past few weeks I was inundated with buy offers from a few dealers, and have since sold out of all my sets. I sold my remaining ones for close to retail to these dealers! I think there was some Christmas stocking up is going on. I still have a few Discovery sets, and they are moving out steadilly. They'd be gone by now, but I don't advertise them. I think they would have sold out for Christmas if I had.

    So, now, a year later the market has turned away from as local supply to a more national distribution.

    As for the Red Book, they have sworn me to keep any plans on listing it a secret. >>



    This was the primary thing that held back the '82-nmm dime. There were huge hoards
    of these and the coins got very little distribution. It took years to mostly distribute
    these coins.

    These quarters should do much better for many reasons.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While I have not abandoned this market, I am currently interested in buying certified sets, not raw ones so much. The time to slab them is not so attractive anymore.
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  • Here are some updated pops.



    pops. 3/12
    PCGS
    ..................58.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67
    high leaf......1......15....232...98.......8.......0
    low leaf........0......25...425...139.....5.......1


    NGC
    ...................64.....65.....66.....67.....68
    high leaf.......3.......7.......7.....22.......6
    low leaf........3......27.....50......8.......0



    pops.3/22
    PCGS
    ...................58.....62.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67
    high leaf.......1.....0........21....280...114....11......0
    low leaf........0.....4........40....521...172.....11.....1


    NGC
    ...................64.....65....66.....67.....68
    high leaf.......3......7.....13.....26.......6
    low leaf........5.....31....54......8........0


    pops. 4/2
    PCGS
    ..................58.....62.....63.....64......65.....66....67
    high leaf.....1......3.......22.....303....137..16......0
    low leaf......0......4.......42.....546....197..12......1

    NGC
    .................64.....65.....66.....67.....68
    high leaf...31.....190...378...253.....7
    low leaf....11.......69...103....51......0


    pops. 4/11
    PCGS
    .................58.....62.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67
    high leaf....6.......4......38.....353...155....18.....0
    low leaf.....0.......4......54.....611....217....14....1

    NGC
    .................64.....65.....66.....67.....68
    high leaf...31.....190...378..253......7
    low leaf....11......69....103...51.......0

    pops. 7/14
    PCGS
    .....................58.....61.....62.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67
    high leaf.......13.....0.......16.....81.....567...275...32.....0
    low leaf........11.....6.......11....107....922...370...24.....1

    NGC
    ....................55.....58.....61.....62.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67.....68
    high leaf.......1.......5.......1.......8......17.....164...494..508...277......7
    high leaf(PL)..............................................3.......12.....9........1........
    low leaf.................9.......1.......5......14.....205...520..378....70........
    low leaf(PL)...............................................1........1......3........1........


    Pops. 12/03/05
    PCGS
    .................55.....58.....61.....62.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67
    high leaf....5......33......0......35.....123...694...320....33......0
    low leaf...10.....19......7......55.....164..1127..403....26......1

    NGC
    ....................55.....58.....61.....62.....63.....64.....65.....66.....67.....68
    high leaf.......8.......27......5.....22.....34.....368..861....723...301.....8
    high leaf pl...0.........0......0......0........0.......4......15.......18......1.....0
    low leaf........2.......35......5.....11......43....453...1035...634...91.....1
    low leaf pl....0.........0......0.......0.......0.......2.......15.......9........1.....0

    totals:
    high leaf=3638
    low leaf=4149


  • << <i>Does anyone besides me think that these were purposely made ? >>




    As you'll recall, prominent error "experts" have pronounced them die gouges.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    << <i>Does anyone besides me think that these were purposely made ? >>




    As you'll recall, prominent error "experts" have pronounced them die gouges. >>




    I dont believe that for a second. What are the odds for them both to be in that same place going in different directions. They actually DO look like leaves.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,751 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>


    I dont believe that for a second. What are the odds for them both to be in that same place going in different directions. They actually DO look like leaves. >>




    They were also made at the same time and probably on the same press. Since they've been
    found together it's also likely that both dies were retired at the same time.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Looking at Rick's photo, the low leaf variety actually looks like it goes behind the leading edge of the husk on the left and continues on the right side. So I seriously doubt a die gouge.

    The high leaf variety does not pass through any of the features of the coin indicating to me that it was purposely placed.

    Additionally. both varieties are distinct unlike the speared bison die gouge which requires light at a specific angle to see.

    I'm thinking mole! image
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it was intentional. Die gouges? Yes! But intentional ones!

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW- VERY nice pics Rick! Thanks for sharing them with us. They're the best I've seen yet.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.



  • << <i>Does anyone besides me think that these were purposely made ? >>

    I am sure the mint loves all the extra sales it gets every time an error gets media attention
  • Thought I would ask the group: Looks like PCGS is stricter on NGC. I have a few NGC MS66's of each type that I am going to sell, and I was thinking that crossover might be a waste of time. And I think that coins of this type merit the sentimate-Buy the HOLDER not the coin. image
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  • Oh yeah: ANyone have a good picture of the so-called "Right Leaf"? I saw one for sale, but no close up pics. IGC designation I think.
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  • << <i>
    On a sad note, although Bob did quite well with these quarters, he had a rough year as he lost his wife a few months ago. >>




    That is really sad to hear. image


    It is hard to believe that is has been a year already and that not many more have been discovered since those few rolls by San Antonio, TX last spring. I still think this is sooooooo image
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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone besides me think that these were purposely made ? >>



    1909- S V.D.B.
    1955 DDO
    No S Proof Sets
    2000 Sacagawea Mules
    2000 Cheerios Sacagawea

    Well, here's a few examples of where the Mint was able to learn and reinforce their learning about using varieties to help promote and sell their products. Every once in a while we can expect to be thrown a bone to renew our interest.

    Oh, and I forgot the big promotional tool, reduced mintages. Nothing like a good reduced mintage to whip up the feeding frenzy. image

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