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This place has ruined my trust.....(off topic, please ignore)

TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
Ok.....So I'm shopping around for diamond earrings. (Not for me...I'm not the jewelry type).

But I find a good price online, and the gems are "certified" by American Gemlab. Now, I don't know anything about diamonds, and pre-PCGS forum I would have figured that was "good enough for me".

Instead, I did some checking. It appears they are an in-house certifier. Sound familiar?

I'm not gullible anymore, and it's ALL YOUR FAULT!!! image

Anyway, guess I'll shop the malls. I still won't know anything about diamonds, but when I buy, at least I'll like what they look like.

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Added here, so as not to bump it to the top:
It just occurred to me that this is either very nearly off topic, or at least wandered in that direction.
But, to answer some of the comments below.....
1) Thanks for the offer to help me find a good deal in the L.A. area, but I'm really not shopping for anything outrageously expensive. Call me cheap. image
2) Russ is correct, (as he often is), and I decided to avoid the mall and order online anyway. I avoided the in-house certifier just on general principal, however. image
Easily distracted Type Collector

Comments

  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Diamonds are a bigger racket than coins.
    Doug
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    tell me about it, got engaged last year and was never more petrified then when looking for diamonds.

    good primer on this site Diamonds

    it's a commercial place and i never bought from them, but thier explanation about the 4cs etc is enlightening.

    enough about diamonds... back to coins !!!
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    diamonds might lose all their value very soon.

    after all they can make them in a lab. rubies too. large ones.

    make gold though? hah. right. ;-)

    edited to add: lets not forget pearls, and how they come about now days compared to the old.

    ah yes, what a racket indeed.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Go to some place like Blue Nile and get an idea what you want and roughly how much it will cost go to your local jewelry store armed with that info. I got a very similar price to online shopping locally.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Find a copy of the blue Rappaport sheet. Subtract 55-60% and offer that in your downtown Jewelry district. 40% back

    on certified would be a steal. Take a pure white cardboard sheet with you to look at diamonds for color. Many sellers

    will put loose diamonds on a slightly off-colr background to hide color. Buy no less than G color - H may be OK for earrings.

    SI2 or SI3 should be good enough for earrings - people don't stick their noses up against women's ears to

    look at diamonds the way they do hands. GIA certs are the best.

    Good luck.



  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    sorry, BBE, it doesn't have to be that complicated....

    Read.. and be disturbed!

    at least you know who...I mean, what the diamond really is !!!
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>sorry, BBE, it doesn't have to be that complicated....

    Read.. and be disturbed!

    at least you know who...I mean, what the diamond really is !!! >>




    OMG! That is MORBID!

    image
  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546

    Anyway, guess I'll shop the malls. I still won't know anything about diamonds, but when I buy, at least I'll like what they look like. >>

    I also collect Gems besides watches and Antiques (Member International Gemology Society) If your in the LA area I can give you some contacts in the Jewelry district and if not I can send you some links to ebay sellers I have dealt with that give killer deals. GIA is like PCGS and EGL like NGC in Diamond certs. I strongly advise you to stay out of the malls unless you have the money to burn... I believe the Fender museum is in Corona about 15 minutes from me, On of my Buds lent his early amp to them. Take care! Mark A039@aol.comimage
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyway, guess I'll shop the malls. >>



    Hey, you're a guy! Will you be wearing a disguise in case any of your guy friends get drug there by their wives?

    Russ, NCNE
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i>sorry, BBE, it doesn't have to be that complicated....

    Read.. and be disturbed!

    at least you know who...I mean, what the diamond really is !!! >>




    That is pretty creepy.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is pretty creepy.

    I don't know. It seems simple enough...

    "Separate out NO MORE THAN 8 ounces (about 1 Cup) of the cremated remains and tightly secure in a plastic bag or other plastic container. DO NOT send all of the remains unless you have chosen our additional scattering option or return option. We only need 8 ounces to produce all of the LifeGem diamonds on your order."
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.


  • << <i>That is pretty creepy. >>


    I don't know, I kinda like the idea. I'll finally look good. (I'll probably end up with inclusions.) image

    Actually it makes a lot of sense to me. If I'm going to pay a couple thousand for a stone I'd rather it be one like this than some piece of granite sitting in a cemetary.

    I can see it giveing a whole new meaning to the term "Family Heirlooms"
  • bonkroodbonkrood Posts: 796 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That is pretty creepy.

    I don't know. It seems simple enough...

    "Separate out NO MORE THAN 8 ounces (about 1 Cup) of the cremated remains and tightly secure in a plastic bag or other plastic container. DO NOT send all of the remains unless you have chosen our additional scattering option or return option. We only need 8 ounces to produce all of the LifeGem diamonds on your order." >>



    It starts off sounding like a recipe, 1 cup mix and bake w/pressure, etc. Go the whole route, freeze dry, bake then send the gem to space. image
    image Steam Power
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    just hard to imaging accepting a compliment on it.


    why, what a lovely diamond ring !

    thanks ! it's my mother/father/etc...

    eep

    oops.sorry. ibrought this thing off topic. wont happen again.
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    Buy white topaz
    She will never know the differance

    LOL
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  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    Somewhere in your community, there is a medium sized, independent jeweler. This is someone who has been in business at least two decades. Where their store is, probably, was a very nice area 20 years ago and now is a little run down.

    When you go in, you will *know* its the right place and can be trusted like the finest of dealers. Like Mike, Warren and Jon, Julian etc.

    The place may well have autographed pictures from local celebs like a football coach or a news anchor.

    That place, you can explicitly trust.

    I know from personal experience purchasing and getting independent estimates.
  • BigE2BigE2 Posts: 1,037
    "DO NOT BUY JEWELRY IN THE MALLS!!!" That is the mantra I say to anyone I hear of who's looking to buy ANY precious metal and stone jewelry. Like some of the other posts here, find three smaller local or regional shops and go to them, ask questions and compare. You'll end up finding at least one that you'll stick with for life.

    My personal favorite are people who buy and sell estate jewelry. My favorite is in Albany, NY and everything I've purchased for my wife in the last five years has been from him. The best being a diamond three stone ring (.78ctTW) set in platinum filigree setting from the 1930's England. Absolutly Stunning little ring! Even came in the original ring box. The workmanship on the older stuff is just wonderful. We've had 5 major pieces appraised for insurance and the appraisal's are up to 5x what I paid!

    These type of folks really know thier stuff! You should also definatly familiarize yourself with the 4 C's of diamonds, it'll make it easier when your looking at them.


    Added: read the post above this one.

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