Picture Post: Post a Toned Coin from a Date that is NOT Known For Nice Color!
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Most series that are known for monster color have a few dates that are most common--Morgans have 1880-s, 1881-S, 1883, 1883-O, 1885-O, 1885, 1887; Franklins have 1956-1958-P/D, etc. So, post a colorful coin from a date that's not often seen with nice color...
Two 1898 morgans:
Two 1898 morgans:
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<< <i>I like them, whats that little spot under the M in UNUM in the top pic? >>
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Anyone know what was special about those years...any speculation?
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<< <i>Most series that are known for monster color have a few dates that are most common--Morgans have 1880-s, 1881-S, 1883, 1883-O, 1885-O, 1885, 1887; Franklins have 1956-1958-P/D
Anyone know what was special about those years...any speculation? >>
Jay, I'm not sure if this is the whole story, but the above dates for morgans are basically the most common dates for the morgan series. Since so few were used, relative to the mintage, lots were stored in mint vaults. Since there were more of these dates than others, more of these dates ended up in storage, and picked up bag toning. Obviously, endroll, album, and other forms of non-bag toning wouldn't be affected as much by this--those numbers more would be affected simply by relative mintages. As for the Franklins, 56-58 were simply the best years for mint set toning, based on the tissue paper put in the sets.
Jeremy
<< <i>How about a 1923 Peace Dollar? I don't think many of those have nice color, do they? >>
As long as you post a peace dollar, the above statement holds true... forget about the date!
>>>Anyone know what was special about those years...any speculation? <<<
Jeremy is right about the sheer numbers from these dates that ended up sitting in mint bags, but (with respect to Morgans) I believe it was the planchet preparation and type of wash used that affected the degree of toning as much as anything else.
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<< <i>As long as you post a peace dollar, the above statement holds true... forget about the date! >>
Okay -- how about this one. It is my fav!
Michael
<< <i> Jeremy is right about the sheer numbers from these dates that ended up sitting in mint bags, but (with respect to Morgans) I believe it was the planchet preparation and type of wash used that affected the degree of toning as much as anything else. >>
Just a few observations or ramblings if you so desire..."-)
I'm thinking your both correct and there has to be a chain of events to produce good toning, Alloy, Wash, Packaging, Storage, Climate...
The more of these event that come together the better the Toning...
Take Mint Set Toning... "57 & '58 Rule but the earlier 50's Mint Set had the same packaging but do not readily produce the same toning...
In my opinion the best Mint Sets come out of the South, is that because all 5 events came together...?
Take the GSA Carson City Morgan's, Hard to find good Toning in any date. Big Hoard that was stored a long time in Mint Bags, is that because it was stored in Dry/Cold Nevada instead of Wet/Warm New Orland's...?
Just some food for thought...
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<< <i>As long as you post a peace dollar, the above statement holds true... forget about the date! >>
Okay -- how about this one. It is my fav!
Michael >>
this one is quite the exception
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<< <i>I'm thinking your both correct and there has to be a chain of events to produce good toning, Alloy, Wash, Packaging, Storage, Climate...
The more of these event that come together the better the Toning...
Take Mint Set Toning... "57 & '58 Rule but the earlier 50's Mint Set had the same packaging but do not readily produce the same toning... >>
Dave, most of what you said I agree with, but this part is not entirely correct. While the mint sets are generally the same, the difference is the tissue paper used, which covered half of each coin. In 1958-D it was a green paper, which had different sulfur amounts than past years--so really, the compositions are NOT the same.
Jeremy
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