Ebay Lincoln NGC 65RD cent
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TorinoCobra71
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Looks reasonable from the poor pics (don't know if I would have pulled the trigger).
In the story, please include how you chose binky as an ebay handle - I would love to know.......
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
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Keep on trucking on sleezebay. Watch those estate deals!
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Andrew
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I blocked old binky from bidding on any of my auctions - sounds like a seller/buyer to avoid.
Now that I have heard the story, old binky ought to take the coin back.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
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roadrunner
I can't tell you how many people asked for different pictures on a Omega watch I just sold.
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Box of 20
No, what I am saying is that there are levels of risks involved with any purchase. People tend to pay more for less risk. If you want a nearly 100% risk-free transaction, then view the coin in person. If you want higher risk, buy it sight unseen, unslabbed. There are many variations in between.
Heritage and Teletrade have enhanced coin viewing capability, so if you take a closeup look at a really nice coin, you can determine that you would bid more for it than a lower quality example in the same grade. I would say they have an advantage over the ebay seller in that alone allows you to better adjust for the risk, therefore will tend to bring higher prices than Ebay for the same coin, all else being equal.
It would be similar to buying a used Mercedes. Buy it Certified from your local dealer and you have a good chance of them taking care of a problem, buy it online from some joe blow on Ebay...well, good luck. Most people would pay more for the exact same car coming from the local dealer.
roadrunner
this might be crazy talk, but could a bath remove the print?
If so, you have two outs.
If not...guess you are stuck. good luck!!
Never ever deal with people who don't take returns..unconditionally.
I'm thinking about upping my return to 30 days to give buyers even more confidence.
I get so few anyway.
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Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
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I don't read anywhere near all the theads posted but I know at least once a week I see a thread where someone claims to have been ripped off by "crafty" worded return policies or poor pictures. In fact, if one reads any threads at all one should easily come to the conclusion that if the auction has the word "Estate" in it, avoid the auction.
You purchased a 1918 Lincoln NGC 65RD cent. As long as that is what you received (and in this case the serial # is also shown) it's a "done deal".
All concerns and questions are to be asked BEFORE you bid, not after you win the auction or worse after you receive the coin.
Also. I hope no one is naive enough to actually look at, much less believe any sticker price in the picture or any claim of value by the seller.
I think this is a case where your hoping overshadowed your judgement. (But I find that to be the case most of the time when someone feels they have been "ripped" off).
Joe.
I have to email every potential seller on ebay and go through a list of possible coin faults for every sale????? And when I do, they will respond with accuracy and speed? More than likely they'll figure you as a cook and delist you. Tell me how many times you have asked the below questions on all lots you have bid on. Should we have too?
ex:
Is your coin spotted, printed, nicked, discolored, hairlined to death, scrubbed, cleaned, gouged, pitted, corroded, stained, artificially toned, thumbed, waxed, lasered, frosted, recolored, bent, nicked, culled, pickled, boiled, scratched, fake, etc.? Get the picture? And I'm "SURE" blinky would have responsed that the coin was fingerprinted! He never even saw a print according to his replies to me! NEVER EVER SAW IT. You buy that? He likely would have said, "I don't recall any problems like that, it was a full gem."
The $750 sticker? Come on!
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The return policy that the seller has is no good???
I don't get that. he should back that up.
Screw you buyer once shame on you, screw your buyer twice shame on the buyer. In this case the seller screwed the buyer.
We should all avoid this seller.
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
UncleJoe seems to take "caveat emptor" to the extreme.
I'm with RR on this one, even to the extent that I sent a
very pleasant message to the seller that, based upon his
return policy, he wouldn't really have to worry about my being
a customer. I guess I can't help stirring the pot a little
I like Segoja's tack - even if it means a few cranks are going to
make my life difficult if and when I decide to sell on the 'Bay again.
I'll never buy another coin on Ebay again... Yeah, right. I'll get sucked
in again - but with my eyes even wider open.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Regards
Gary
The following is a link to another thread in which a return policy was discussed. Anyone reading that thread, while not necessarily agreeing with the meaning of vague or "crafty" worded return policies, should at the very least be wary of any return policy that does not look like an unconditional return policy if that is what you expect. To read and/or post to that thread and not understand or be aware of the pitfalls of eBay auctions or worse yet continue to bid with your rose-colored view of how eBay should run, is not defensible in my view.
I firmly believe that I should be able to park my car with the keys in the ignition with the doors and windows open, with my wallet and recently purchased goods on the seat of my car, go run some errands and when I return, everything should be as I left it. However, coming back to the real world, I don't think I will be trying that experiment anytime soon.
Return Policy Thread
Joe.
Edit: No, I don't do anything with Paypal. but here would have been a good example to use it.
You would lose because you received what you purchased (and this has been discussed in many threads as well).
I'll never buy another coin on Ebay again... Yeah, right. I'll get sucked in again - but with my eyes even wider open.
This is the intent of my posts. To open your eyes as to how eBay REALLY works not how someone THINKS it should work. Thank you.
You bid on a coin (1) from a "gentlemen's estate" sale, (2) with lousy (tiny) pics, and (3) with the seller's instructions of "Will accept return if there is merit to do so." (We all know what that means).
So, what were you thinking?
Your worst mistake is to have made this post. You are an experienced seller and you want the board members to agree with you about how you didn't quite get the "deal" you thought you did. You know as well as I do, there are all kinds of buyers out there. Someone will be interested in that NGC 65RD just thinking he can crack it out and get PCGS to slab it. You know an experienced buyer wouldn't do it, but you also know there are lots of inexperienced Lincoln cent buyers who would do it. WHY? Because they too think they can get a "deal". It's all about the money. Good luck. Steve
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