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Is it possible to build a great collection one coin at a time?

Or do you have to buy a few intact collections along the way to get some otherwise unobtainable great coins and then sell off the dupes or lesser items you don't want?

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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    I guess i depends on the type of collection and who you're dealing with. You may have instances where an heir simply wants to sell the total package so to not have to deal with selling them all and he/she may have one or two that you like out of 20-30.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's possible, but for many of the rarer series you have no choice but to buy the whole set or risk losing the keys if it sells elsewhere or goes to auction. In building my seated dollar set, I had to buy 3 complete collections and two partial ones to get the right coins.
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's possible, but for many of the rarer series you have no choice but to buy the whole set or risk losing the keys if it sells elsewhere or goes to auction. In building my seated dollar set, I had to buy 3 complete collections and two partial ones to get the right coins. >>



    I guess the answer depends on what I ment by 'great', but if you look back at some of the most prominent collections of all time, I think all of Garrett, Norweb, Eliasberg, Ford etc., etc. did exactly what TDN describes.

    I know of a few other landmark sets being built today and they have followed this same pattern.



  • You could probably do a modern set from the mint OK--Clapp/Eliasberg did. Today you might need to buy a dealership too just to unload the duplicates!!! image
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    I'm sorry, what's a "great" collection?
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm sorry, what's a "great" collection? >>



    Lets say its something on the order of what TDN or Stewart Blay or that registry award winning type set guy High Desert (I think thats the name) have built.
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Do you think Cardinal's collection is great? I could be wrong, but my guess is Cardinal didn't buy intact collections to build his.
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I would consider the Cardinal Collection to be great by the definition I gave above, and I do not know if he did it one by one or bought a collection (or 2, or 10) along the way.

    If he did it one by one, then hes a good example to show that it can be done.
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    It is difficult, but it can be done. It also takes a very long time.

    As has been previously stated, established collections often have many of the coins that will fit and if you get the opportunity, it is best to buy the collection and sell off what doesn't fit.

    Eliasberg bought the Clapp collection. The non-gold Eliasberg coins were available, but no one pulled the trigger.

    It takes an enormous amount of money to purchase these types of collections and there aren't that many qualified individuals.

    If you've got the money available that is the most advantageous method of building a collection.

    Be patient. It happens infrequently.
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  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭✭
    A great collection, that depends on exactly what you are looking for.....

    Most people can only look at such coins and dream, if you are talking about a nice respectable collection, I think 1 at a time is how alot of people do it.....
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  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    C'mon CCU, to quote an annoying movie character, "you can doooooo eeeet!"

    Bass did it. Roper did it. Garrett purchased a bunch of things from the Newcomer collection, but only by cherrypicking; otherwise he did it. The Norwebs had the Holden collection to fall back on, but it was really just a multi-generational collection rather than a big lump purchase. Others did it in more specialized ways: Lovejoy, Logan (though he did buy Stew Witham's errors), Robbie Brown, Jack Robinson, Whitney, etc.

    Of course, some took an easier route: Eliasberg bought Clapp; Starr bought Newcomb; Halpern bought Bareford's cents; Naftzger bought Clarke, Sloss, Blaisdell, and others; Ford bought Boyd; Cleanay bought Zanoni; Parmelee consumed collections like he was the Blob.

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>C'mon CCU, to quote an annoying movie character, "you can doooooo eeeet!"

    Bass did it. Roper did it. Garrett purchased a bunch of things from the Newcomer collection, but only by cherrypicking; otherwise he did it. The Norwebs had the Holden collection to fall back on, but it was really just a multi-generational collection rather than a big lump purchase. Others did it in more specialized ways: Lovejoy, Logan (though he did buy Stew Witham's errors), Robbie Brown, Jack Robinson, Whitney, etc.

    Of course, some took an easier route: Eliasberg bought Clapp; Starr bought Newcomb; Halpern bought Bareford's cents; Naftzger bought Clarke, Sloss, Blaisdell, and others; Ford bought Boyd; Cleanay bought Zanoni; Parmelee consumed collections like he was the Blob.

    I bought out my sister in 1988 for $20. Does that count? >>




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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "Is it possible to build a great collection one coin at a time?"

    There is almost an inherent contradiction in the very question itself. If you simply buy an existing collection, have YOU built anything? Most respondents to this question have remarked on the definition of a "great" collection, but I cannot ignore the premise of the question. Great or not, I think most collections are built one coin at a time. Every collector is different, every collection is different, and every circumstance is different, but overall I think most collections are assembled over a long period of time, with acquisitions from many different sources. To be sure, it is beneficial to be able to take advantage of opportunity whenever it knocks, but typically "great" collections are not offered intact, but are dispersed through auction sale, or by outright sale to a dealer and then dispersed. It is the mindset of most collectors to establish a challenge, and then to set out to accomplish that challenge by seeking individual coins wherever they may be found. If the ultimate "great" collection could be had through just one purchase, what fun would that be?

    I can think of several "great" half dime collections that were all assembled one coin at a time, over a long period of time. They were assembled by numismatists; complete collections that are purchased entirely complete are done by investors.

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  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    It is possible but if your really want a GREAT collection and are in a hurry, one coin at a time won't cut it. Best get a gang together and rob (steal) everything you want. This is the fastest way to accumulate such a collection. Then you can compare your collection with other such collections in prison. Another way is to play the lottery, win the lottery, go out and buy every valuable coin made.
    I've been just collecting one coin at a time for over 50 years now and mine is OK, but not great. But it is fun and enjoyable with each purchase or find.
    Carl
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  • I'm trying to build a collection one coin at a time. I will consider it "great" when it is completed, while I am sure many others will consider it just another Lincoln cent set.


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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A great collection is a relative term and it depends on money and the ability to track down rarities within the series collected.

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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    Is it possible to build a great collection one coin at a time?


    yes the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    but it willtake you many years but that is what collecting is all about



    but most importantly after a few years you will realize what you originally started to collect was not good or right for you but by starting out tryingb to build a collection you then will find your true calling so to speak and then you are now off to a great start

    but you had to first go down the road and find that ultimate collection you are currently working on a labor of love
  • BustmanBustman Posts: 1,911
    Yes. Good thread BTW.
  • 500Bay500Bay Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭
    As mentioned above - the definition of a Great Collection is the question.

    For me, a great collection is a collection of coins taht each have a "story." That mostly means scarce and key dates; and interesting (to me)varieties. As such, I will never "complete" it, but it will be fun and challenging for years to come!
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  • capecape Posts: 1,621
    ive built my high grade buffalo collection one coin at a time . often upgrading along the way , this to me is the only way to do it ! you can find the look you want, often times ill downgrade because i find a better looking coin in a lesser grade . this has taken me 7 long years to do but those of you that know me and have seen my collection can appreciate the overall quality . i findly completed this collection and i rank #4 as cape cod buffalos. i guess what im trying to say it doesnt matter what grades your trying to acheive as it can be just as rewarding to you building a complete good set one at a time . remember it is the thrill of the find!
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  • That's what I'm doing with my 7070. I couldn't do it any other way. It's fun and will give me years of work.
    Everything I write is my opinion.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    With so many large national auctions and the internet, I think it's much easier to put together a "great collection" today. One thing that helps, however, is to have some sort of relationship with the owners of coins you really want. Thus, when they want/need to sell, they may simply drop you a line expressing their interest to deal.

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