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Post your comments on these 1898 Half Dollars: COUNTERFEIT & REAL

EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me know your thoughts and I'll post mine later.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    They both suck. I think you should stick to their smaller cousins. image
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    The one on the left doesn't look right. Not sure why. The wear is uneven, the way the edge looks. Just bothers me.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Although it is interesting that all of LIBERTY shows in the first coin despite the heavy wear.

    They still suck.

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  • coinfreak499coinfreak499 Posts: 1,720
    The first one is weird. It has good details except for a full "LIBERITY"


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  • coinfreak499coinfreak499 Posts: 1,720
    The rim ding on the first one bothers me...


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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The one on the left almost looks fake. The stars have a funny pointed look to them (as on a no drapery seated dime). See obv star #1 which almost looks like a 6 leaf clover rather than a start. The wear as already stated has an odd pattern to it.

    Reverse star #5 almost touches the 2nd S in States, not so on the right coin. The first 8 in the date on coin one sticks upward, an odd feature considering how precise they were back then in making a nice even date. Star #4 is not well centered on the reverse on coin #1. This is a sloppy looking coin and might explain the odd wear pattern.

    Either a pattern (lol) or a fake imo.

    roadrunner
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  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭✭
    The first one has been re-engraved.
    Collecting since 1976.
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, the second one is a mostly acceptable Good-6 or so, although I could do without the rim nick on reverse. The first just sucks. The rim chews are unacceptable, and somebody tooled LIBERTY, maybe practicing on this disposable coin. Unless they are some special variety or something -- and I wouldn't know -- I can't see much reason to bother with either. imageimageimage
    mirabela
  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stars on the reverse, reverse lettering, arrows . . . all do not look correct. I opt for the first half being a contemporary counterfeit.

    Drunner
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Stars on the reverse, reverse lettering, arrows . . . all do not look correct. I opt for the first half being a contemporary counterfeit.

    Drunner >>



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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    You don't see too many counterfeits in Barber halves, but the coin on the left is one.

    Based on this thread's title, I was hoping to see an 1898 micro O.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    The coin on the left is counterfeit.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The first one has been re-engraved. >>


    Either that or it's bent.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First one was retooled.

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  • Barberman55Barberman55 Posts: 1,605 ✭
    I think the first half is a counterfeit.

    First, there is to much detail on the obverse stars, stars should look more like the second coin, considering the wear on the coin.

    Second, "LIBERTY" on the headband is way to strong, belongs on a VF-35 or XF-40 half, not one that grades Good-6.

    Third, the letters of the legend, on the reverse, don't look quite right.

    Fourth, on the reverse, the bottom of the left branch is way to close to the letter "F" in HALF.

    Fifth, the stars on the obverse should not have curved sides leading to the star's points, but should be perfectly straight.
    Dan F.

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  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭✭
    I would not touch the first one.....

    I like the second one.....
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My opinion as well, it looks like a counterfeit that circulated.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, a contemorary counterfeit from false dies. The dies were made from scratch! The star positions and the depth of the LIBERTY give it away. The coin is struck on good silver and has a very good clear ring. The wear pattern on it look very normal, not like it was artificially worn down. At the time the price of silver was very low - about 50¢ to the dollar, but what I find odd is all the trouble the counterfeiter went to to make these dies. Does anyone have an example of the one on the left (the counterfeit) in higher garde? Anyone seen one?
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    I heard that ACG graded one MS 62.......................image
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I heard that ACG graded one MS 62.......................image >>



    SEGS went MS70!

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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You know, without a comparison piece I think it would slide thorugh a grading service, except... how many people would submit a G Barber half? And if they noticed that LIBERTY, they probably would catch it. I found it in a batch of low end halfs of similar grade.
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  • JZraritiesJZrarities Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    The 'Liberty' looks re-engraved and should definitely be more worn for the grade.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Post your comments on these 1898 Half Dollars: COUNTERFEIT & REAL >>


    I would love to own it.image
    Larry

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