Well from looking at the pictures I don't see any copy right logo's. And probably if you paid for the coins who would care at Heritage. I seem to see a lot cut and paste work on ebay these days. And Airplanenut most can't take as good of pictures as you do. Me included in that group.
I'll be honest--I think the average "poor" eBay photo is at least as telling as Heritage's pictures--they show NOTHING since they're so washed out. I'd much rather a poor attempt than a Heritage image any day...
I agree with Jeremy. Also of note that if a buyer knows the coin originated at Heritage, they can easily research the price paid for it and it would be difficult to raise bids on eBay beyond the level the coin went for in the Heritage auction, unless the coin is something really special. Heritage's images are crap anyway.
Ethically, it's not OK to use anyone else's work, unless you have their express permission to do so.
1) Buying the coin does NOT transfer rights to the image. Someone who is a professional coin photographer, of course, has a vested interest in maintaining the copyright of their work.
2) Most sellers don't seem to care as long as you legitimately bought the coin in question and it's now yours to sell. For most people, the picture is just a tool to help sell the coin, but for some people, the picture is the "goods" themselves.
Bottom line? Most people not engaged in the coin imaging business would be willing to allow it if you ask. Some might not if they are in the coin photography business, but sometimes even they might be okay with it provided that credit is given for the picture. Depends on the situation.
I tend to take blurry pictures and I doubt if anyone would want mine. But anyone who buys any of my coins is free to use any images I've created to sell them. Then again, my pictures aren't that good, and taking coin pictures isn't a source of income for me. And at least my pictures show more "life" in the coin than Heritage's, even if they lack as much fine detail.
Heritage's pictures are copyrighted. If you were to use them for private reasons such as posting them on your registry, just ask permission. But to use them in commerce, bad idea.
I find this a funny subject which can go either way, logically. I wonder, after I buy the coin, why anyone would WANT a picture of MY coin. Actually, I kind of resent someone having a picture of MY coin. I also understand the reason the owner of the picture has the rights to it. It's their work. Probably something the lawyers thought up to justify their existence just a little bit more. So, all you picture takers, can you tell me why you would want a picture of someone elses coin(s)?..........
edited to add:BTW, I keep ALL decent pictures of coins I buy. If I plan to possibly use that picture publicly, I ask.
First of all you bought the coin! Unless it explicitly says not to use it, it is yours! However if you use the current hosting service and it uses bandwidth you should ask for permission. Would you have bought the coin without the image? Probably not... Take care, Mark
First of all, now that I look at your images on your link I can see why you think it is so. It is obvious you have spent alot of time and money to get them that good. If you sold one of those coins why would you want to retain the right to the image? Take care... Mark
<< <i>If you sold one of those coins why would you want to retain the right to the image? >>
Personally, when I sell coins I let my buyers do as they please with the images. However, that doesn't negate the fact that it is a copyright violation to do so without permission.
Legally, it is copyright infringement if Heritage decided to enforce their rights.
Practically, Heritage has no business interest in protecting the images that they post in their auctions so they most likely will not object if their images are used without their permission. However, I do not mean to shock you but the True View pictures that people are purchasing may be a different story and are not necessarily owned by the purchaser.
Ethically, I really do not see it as a problem since Heritage most likely does not care if their pictures are used to resell a coin.
<< <i>Ethically, it's not OK to use anyone else's work, unless you have their express permission to do so. >>
Umm ROBERTPR ... could you please show us your letter of authorization from Warner Brothers to use the copyrighted image of Wil E. Coyote for your avatar?
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Thats really buying the number when you just look at the Heritage small pictures.
As far as OK to use the pictures. Ya gotta be dumb to use them....
Ken
And Airplanenut most can't take as good of pictures as you do. Me included in that group.
I'll be honest--I think the average "poor" eBay photo is at least as telling as Heritage's pictures--they show NOTHING since they're so washed out. I'd much rather a poor attempt than a Heritage image any day...
Ethically, it's not OK to use anyone else's work, unless you have their express permission to do so.
1) Buying the coin does NOT transfer rights to the image. Someone who is a professional coin photographer, of course, has a vested interest in maintaining the copyright of their work.
2) Most sellers don't seem to care as long as you legitimately bought the coin in question and it's now yours to sell. For most people, the picture is just a tool to help sell the coin, but for some people, the picture is the "goods" themselves.
Bottom line? Most people not engaged in the coin imaging business would be willing to allow it if you ask. Some might not if they are in the coin photography business, but sometimes even they might be okay with it provided that credit is given for the picture. Depends on the situation.
I tend to take blurry pictures and I doubt if anyone would want mine. But anyone who buys any of my coins is free to use any images I've created to sell them. Then again, my pictures aren't that good, and taking coin pictures isn't a source of income for me. And at least my pictures show more "life" in the coin than Heritage's, even if they lack as much fine detail.
YJ
edited to add:BTW, I keep ALL decent pictures of coins I buy. If I plan to possibly use that picture publicly, I ask.
<< <i>Well from looking at the pictures I don't see any copy right logo's. >>
He edited them out.
<< <i>First of all you bought the coin! Unless it explicitly says not to use it, it is yours! >>
Wrong. The purchase of the coin does not grant the right to use the image. The image and the rights to it are owned by the photographer.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>If you sold one of those coins why would you want to retain the right to the image? >>
Personally, when I sell coins I let my buyers do as they please with the images. However, that doesn't negate the fact that it is a copyright violation to do so without permission.
Russ, NCNE
Legally, it is copyright infringement if Heritage decided to enforce their rights.
Practically, Heritage has no business interest in protecting the images that they post in their auctions so they most likely will not object if their images are used without their permission. However, I do not mean to shock you but the True View pictures that people are purchasing may be a different story and are not necessarily owned by the purchaser.
Ethically, I really do not see it as a problem since Heritage most likely does not care if their pictures are used to resell a coin.
Any other questions?
<< <i>Ethically, it's not OK to use anyone else's work, unless you have their express permission to do so. >>
Umm ROBERTPR ... could you please show us your letter of authorization from Warner Brothers to use the copyrighted image of Wil E. Coyote for your avatar?