Home› U.S. Coin Forum
Options

Planning some "crossovers." Any hints?

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
in U.S. Coin Forum
Suggestions? Service level? Grade differential limits? Secrets? Experiences?

Doing a copper type in 55
Silver proof seated in PR63
Bust dollars in XF40 and F12
Silver MS seated in MS63
Early gold in 58

All by NGC or ANACS

image

Comments

  • Options
    fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭
    i am also interested in hearing others thoughts on this.

    1857s anacs ef40 to pcgs.. hm.

    ngc graded half eagles crossing.. hm.
  • Options
    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Make sure you polish out any scratches or blemishes in the slabs.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Options
    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Make sure you polish out any scratches or blemishes in the slabs. >>



    Man.....there's cynics.....and then there's .....DAMN cynics !!

    image
  • Options
    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< Make sure you polish out any scratches or blemishes in the slabs. >>

    Man.....there's cynics.....and then there's .....DAMN cynics !! >>



    I'm serious. It's hard enough to get coins crossed when the graders have to make their six second decision looking through the plastic. If it's scratched or the view of the coin is otherwise obstructed you will lose crosses.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Options
    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There have been many past threads on this topic. Many have felt that a coin won't get a fair shake unless its cracked out prior to being submitted. Not sure if I agree with this but its something to consider. In any event, good luck!

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Options
    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Russ about the holders, and would also suggest submitting each coin on a separate invoice, due to the different types involved.
  • Options
    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Depending on the nature of the coins submitted, one doesn't really have to have a high cross percentage to do well.

    Take this submission for example.

    1 22120494 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR68CA
    2 22120495 1964 50C Accented Hair USA DNC
    3 22120496 1964 50C Accented Hair USA DNC
    4 22120497 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR68CA
    5 22120498 1964 50C Accented Hair USA DNC

    Date Received: 10/20/2005
    Date Shipped: 11/07/2005

    Total submission costs with two way shipping came to $181. Crossing one coin pays for that twice over. Crossing two put it in obscene profit territory.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Options
    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    PS: And, I polished the hell out of the slabs.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Options
    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I apologize, Russ. Of COURSE what you say makes sense. None of my potentials are in grungy slabs. A...couple... of marks but none that preclude viewing to any degree.

    We need a "tongue in cheek" smiley.

    These will be delivered in person at Santa Clara. Should they still be on separate invoices? Don't wanna piss off the folks at the table.

  • Options
    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't wanna piss off the folks at the table. >>

    I am confident that will not affect the actual GRADING, though your COINS might get "lost" before the grading becomes an issue.imageimage
  • Options
    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, shoot! Might as well get SPECIFIC. THESE are the coins.

    image

    image

    image

    image

    image

    image

    THERE! Now be gentle.

    image

    WHAT?!?!? You can't grade from images? Well whoever......?
  • Options
    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save your money until you see if they go to a 100 point scale.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • Options
    bgricebgrice Posts: 1,180
    Crack'em. Clean slate with no presumptions up front. image
  • Options
    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Crack'em. Clean slate with no presumptions up front. >>



    I'm old.

    My COURAGE left 30 years ago. Well 5 at least.

    image
  • Options
    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Save your money until you see if they go to a 100 point scale. >>



    And lose my position in the class action lawsuit?

    imageimageimage
  • Options
    majorbigtimemajorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭


    << <i>I apologize, Russ. Of COURSE what you say makes sense. None of my potentials are in grungy slabs. A...couple... of marks but none that preclude viewing to any degree.

    We need a "tongue in cheek" smiley.

    >>



    Hey, Russ is the AH King!!
  • Options
    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey, Russ is the AH King!! >>



    And MajorBigDoofus is just the AH.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Options
    majorbigtimemajorbigtime Posts: 2,937 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hey, Russ is the AH King!! >>



    And MajorBigDoofus is just the AH.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I salute the King!!
  • Options
    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best advice I can give is to put your emotions on the shelf and understand with total certainty up front, that the chances of everything crossing is pretty much nill.

    Also keep in mind that it is not a conspiracy or a personal vendetta against you if none of them cross... and if you turn around and send them in again, some of them probably will.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • Options
    ExtraordinaryCoinsExtraordinaryCoins Posts: 101
    I also have some crossover candidates and have not submitted for crossovers previously. Two questions:

    1) Should I crack them or send them in their slabs? I am comfortable cracking and have the appropriate tools and experience.

    2) Is it worth sending in a coin graded by ICG hopping to get the same grade by PCGS and knowing that there is very little chance of an up grade or the coin is already graded MS70 by ICG?

    I ask purely for selling purposes not collecting.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
    Cheers,
    Michael
  • Options
    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1) Should I crack them or send them in their slabs? I am comfortable cracking and have the appropriate tools and experience. >>



    If you believe they are all there for the grade by PCGS standards and conclude there are no problems that might cause a bodybag, crack them. OTOH, if you're not sure, leave them in the holder.



    << <i>2) Is it worth sending in a coin graded by ICG hopping to get the same grade by PCGS and knowing that there is very little chance of an up grade or the coin is already graded MS70 by ICG? >>



    As a matter of policy, PCGS will not cross MS70 or PR70 coins, so you'd be flushing the grading fee if you submit them in the holder.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Options
    ExtraordinaryCoinsExtraordinaryCoins Posts: 101
    How about if they are not MS or PF 70? For example I have an ICG MS67 RD 1959 lincoln cent. Is it worth sending it in just to get the PCGS rating at the same level?

    I guess what I am trying to figure out here is will the coin have more "value" if it crosses over at the same grade from ICG to PCGS or NGC?
    Cheers,
    Michael

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Format
SpoilerCodeQuote
Heading 2Heading 1
Emoji
:):D:(;):/:o:s:p:'(:|B):#:*<3o:)>:)
Url
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file
Home • U.S. Coin ForumComment As ...