Looks to have VF35 to EF40 details and above average overall eye appeal. Appears to have what they call "old cleaning" and very nice and even "album toning" Doesn't seem like it's hairlined abrasively, but has a "soap and watered" or maybe mild "baking soda'd" look Some marks on the face, neck, and in the fields are not too uncommensurate with a Vf or Ef coin.. however, they should be described for accuracy, and factored in, I'd call this one VF30 or so. as a check: Yes, I'd probably snap it up at VF20 money and pass at an EF40 price. All remarks are based on the picture, but I would need to see it in hand. One must be on the lookout for hidden tooling on such a nice looking coin.. Really need to see it better. WANT to see it better, do you have another pic?
Is old cleaning that big of a deal? Still learning, but amazes me that there would be that many 200+ year old coins that haven't been touched in one way or the other over the years.
Well, you'd rather not have it. and the less "done" to an old coin, the better. would you be looking at this '96 dime if it had been scrubbed with steel wool?
Still learning, but amazes me that there would be that many 200+ year old coins that haven't been touched in one way or the other over the years
you're absolutely right, "unmessed" coins are very rare and desireable!
<< <i>Is old cleaning that big of a deal? Still learning, but amazes me that there would be that many 200+ year old coins that haven't been touched in one way or the other over the years. >>
No, it is not that big a deal--if it was done properly. As for untouched 200 year old coins...at least 90 to 95 percent of all TPG (yes even PCGS) bust material has been cleaned--in many instances more noticeably than this coin.
The only reason it might not slab would be the rim dings--and I have seen worse in top-tier slabs.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
and since i do not have the coin sight seen in front of me only a photo
choice vf+ details or now called xf-40 a true xf is an xf45 a slabbing service xf40 is just a nice vf always has been and is till today tomorrow i do not know about
net graded to choice fine due to mild to possible medium cleaning also reverse rim/edge disturbances/damage and environmental /maybe purposeful surface damage
I don't suck, it isn't mine. I just had no way to tell what the condition and value might be since there is little for me to compare it to, it's not like the Buffalos and such I normally buy...
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<< <i>I suck on draped bust, bu will go EF40 >>
Um, might you wish to rephrase that???
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
Appears to have what they call "old cleaning" and very nice and even "album toning"
Doesn't seem like it's hairlined abrasively, but has a "soap and watered" or maybe mild "baking soda'd" look
Some marks on the face, neck, and in the fields are not too uncommensurate with a Vf or Ef coin..
however, they should be described for accuracy, and factored in, I'd call this one VF30 or so.
as a check: Yes, I'd probably snap it up at VF20 money and pass at an EF40 price.
All remarks are based on the picture, but I would need to see it in hand. One must be on the lookout for hidden tooling on such a nice looking coin.. Really need to see it better.
WANT to see it better, do you have another pic?
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
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<< <i>I suck on draped bust, bu will go EF40 >>
Um, might you wish to rephrase that???
And what's the problem with that?
Probably won't grade, as an old cleaning, and rim dings at 5 o'clock.
But a great collector coin.
<< <i>Is old cleaning that big of a deal? >>
not that big of a deal if it's not to harsh or heavily hairlined
Well, you'd rather not have it. and the less "done" to an old coin, the better.
would you be looking at this '96 dime if it had been scrubbed with steel wool?
Still learning, but amazes me that there would be that many 200+ year old coins that haven't been touched in one way or the other over the years
you're absolutely right, "unmessed" coins are very rare and desireable!
that's why "original" coins are so valuable!
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
unless the cleaning was to smooth out some planchet roughness
all this being said without seeing the coin in person
<< <i>Is old cleaning that big of a deal? Still learning, but amazes me that there would be that many 200+ year old coins that haven't been touched in one way or the other over the years. >>
No, it is not that big a deal--if it was done properly. As for untouched 200 year old coins...at least 90 to 95 percent of all TPG (yes even PCGS) bust material has been cleaned--in many instances more noticeably than this coin.
The only reason it might not slab would be the rim dings--and I have seen worse in top-tier slabs.
and since i do not have the coin sight seen in front of me only a photo
choice vf+ details or now called xf-40 a true xf is an xf45 a slabbing service xf40 is just a nice vf always has been and is till today tomorrow i do not know about
net graded to choice fine due to mild to possible medium cleaning also reverse rim/edge disturbances/damage and environmental /maybe purposeful surface damage
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>If anyone has small eagle bust coins that look like this, selling for Fine-15 money, please sell to me, I'd like to buy a couple rolls >>
Baleys on the prowl
hi, i'm tom.
i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.
<< <i>A very nice XF 45, not quite AU.
Probably won't grade, as an old cleaning, and rim dings at 5 o'clock.
But a great collector coin. >>
I think Dale pretty much nailed it, though I'd want to see it in person to render an opinion as to whether I thought it would grade.
I would not be surprised if you get that in a problem free holder.
Def nice EF45 details.
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