Has anyone ever had or heard of a regrade submission that...

saintguru · October 21, 2005 5:55AM

upgraded by 2 grades?

Stunner · October 21, 2005 6:11AM

I've got one better than that, how about a crackout upgrade from NGC MS61 to PCGS MS63

mercurydimeguy · October 21, 2005 6:14AM

<< upgraded by 2 grades? >>

Yes....64FB to 66FB.

I had a coin go up 5 grade points one time also -- but not on a resubmission. It was cracked out first.

RYK · October 21, 2005 6:16AM

Rarely, but I submitted one yesterday that should. It might take a few trips to California before it does. However, it's probably easier to get a 2 grade upgrade from XF-40 to AU-50 than MS-64 to MS-66. Earlier this year, I had a coin that went from Rattler 30 to 40 (probably should have made 45

).

braddick · October 21, 2005 6:31AM

Mitch (aka Wondercoin) will remember this one: I had a commemorative cross from PCI VF20 to PCGS XF45. That's a jump of 25 points!
Edited to add: Funny part was I was looking to build a super low grade, problem free PCGS early commemorative registry and the upgrade was not desired!

USCGCraig · October 21, 2005 7:01AM

I've had quite a few AU50's cross over to PCGS AU55. I cracked them out first.

DennisH · October 21, 2005 7:19AM

I've twice sent in XF45 Morgans in the holder and had them come back AU53.

Russ · October 21, 2005 7:42AM

I've had many coins upgrade two or three grades.

Russ, NCNE

Bear · October 21, 2005 7:49AM

Recently I cracked out a 1833 Capped Bust Half from an older fat AU-50 NGC holder

and it came back PCGS AU-58. Of course the coin had a beautiful full luster and razor strike.

This is only the only time I have received an upgrade by more then 1 point. I origonally

bought the coin from the Coin Lieutenant. He has an extraordinary eye for Bust coinage in particular.

I am still happily stunned.

MadMonk · October 21, 2005 7:50AM

Yes! Absolutely.
Years ago, we did a number of old PCI to PCGS crosses that just that.
Boy, those were the days!

saintguru · October 21, 2005 7:56AM

Interesting. It seems that with the lower grades there is more "interpretive" grading. Honestly, with my nearsightedness, I was thinking more in terms of MS coins because that's what I collect...but these are great.

Russ...I'd guess that yours were MS?

Boom · October 21, 2005 7:57AM

Yes indeedy.

cho10 · October 21, 2005 9:48AM

<< upgraded by 2 grades? >>

I kept my Morgan collection in a group of Capitol Holders for some years.
Then in 2003 I decided to slab them all.
I had broken out a number of coins (almost all PCGS) to place them in the Capitol holders but I kept the slips with the grade.
One of the coins I submitted was in a PCGS MS61 holder and when ti came back from PCGS it was MS63.
Claude

Russ · October 21, 2005 10:13AM

<< Russ...I'd guess that yours were MS? >>

Yes, and proofs.

Russ, NCNE

dizzyfoxx · October 21, 2005 10:19AM

<< I've had many coins upgrade two or three grades.

Russ, NCNE >>

Another prime example of the cliche'... "Buy the COIN, not the holder. I've got a few early toned commems that are graded and slabbed a given grade, but I definitely see them as a higher grade. It means nothing to me having them in the slab their currently in unless I ever decide to part with them. At that time, they will be upgraded to what I feel is their appropriate assigned grade.

Russ · October 21, 2005 10:21AM

<< << I've had many coins upgrade two or three grades.

Russ, NCNE >>

Another of many examples of the cliche'... "Buy the COIN, not the holder. >>

Yeah, except I cheat.

Russ, NCNE

dizzyfoxx · October 21, 2005 10:29AM

<< 

<< << I've had many coins upgrade two or three grades.

Russ, NCNE >>

Another of many examples of the cliche'... "Buy the COIN, not the holder. >>

Yeah, except I cheat.

Russ, NCNE >>

Russ, care to share your wisdom?

onlyroosies · October 21, 2005 10:47AM

I once had a 1953S PCGS MS65 Roosie regrade at NGC MS68*.

Russ · October 21, 2005 10:52AM

<< << << I've had many coins upgrade two or three grades.

Russ, NCNE >>

Another of many examples of the cliche'... "Buy the COIN, not the holder. >>

Yeah, except I cheat.

Russ, NCNE >>

Russ, care to share your wisdom? >>

Here's an example:

I bought that coin (and two others) as PCGS PR66CAMs. They were graded PR66CAM because of flip haze. Cracked them out, corrected the problem, resubmitted. That one re-graded PR69CAM and sold for a hell of a lot more than it cost.

Russ, NCNE

Deadhorse · October 21, 2005 11:05AM

PCGS 63 DCAM to NGC 67 UCAM.

I made it from an early 50s proof set off sleaze bay with a very bad seller's picture. I took a chance on it for less than bid money.

In truth, it was terribly undergraded by PCGS earlier this year during the much discussed massacre that many of us got beaten up in.

Deadhorse · October 21, 2005 11:08AM

<< I bought that coin (and two others) as PCGS PR66CAMs. They were graded PR66CAM because of flip haze. Cracked them out, corrected the problem, resubmitted. That one re-graded PR69CAM and sold for a hell of a lot more than it cost.

Russ, NCNE >>

Could you please define "corrected the problem" for the less informed. Was it as simple as acetone?

sellsatan · October 21, 2005 11:08AM

Russ has a good friend:

MrEureka · October 21, 2005 12:58PM

They were graded PR66CAM because of flip haze. Cracked them out, corrected the problem, resubmitted. That one re-graded PR69CAM

If it was so difficult to see how nice your coin was underneath the haze, I wonder how difficult it might be to see how bad another coin is beneath similar haze. In other words, are coins with a haze ungradeable?

WTCG · October 22, 2005 3:49PM

Yes. Recently had a coin that upgraded by four points. That coin was a Proof Seated Quarter.

skerke · October 22, 2005 5:09PM

I had a 2 cent piece go from Questionable color Body Bagged..to an MS 63 Brown!!! so essentialy 63 grades

Dabigkahuna · October 22, 2005 5:29PM

Not up.

It's not uncommon to see AU58's up tic to MS62 or even MS63, at least lately.

Larry
Dabigkahuna

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