How was the Central States show in Dearborn?

291fifth · August 28, 2005 10:30PM

I was there on Friday and thought it lacked any spark. There were too few out-of-area dealers...a major disappointment.

islandcoins · August 28, 2005 10:41PM

We were set up at the show and found it to be very dissapointing. All the other dealers I spoke with felt the same. Retail was very slow as was dealer to dealer transactions. I personally feel there were way to many shows and auctions this summer.

rottnrog · August 28, 2005 10:50PM

I was also there Friday and noticed the lack of spark.

I also had a nice talk with Mike from Certified Coins of Canada. He had a table, but no coins. He said the new free trade agreement made it impossible for him to bring his coins from Canada!! He was only buying as he is allowed to take them back into Canada!! $375 for a table just to buy sure is a bummer!!

Hope the one in November is better!!!

MadMarty · August 28, 2005 10:55PM

My full report!

Cameonut · August 29, 2005 12:30AM

I was there from 10-2 on Saturday. Attendance was pretty sparse even though the weather was poor.

Didn't see Marty (or the chicken) even though I was keeping a sharp eye out.

Next time I'll be looking for the chicken instead of the Margaritaville T shirt.

Managed to sell a number of PCGS proof nickels and bought a number of proof sets containing those elusive cameos. Biggest score of the day was a 1960 small date set in a Capital Plastics holder for $30 - contains a really nice dcam cent. Second best score was a '58 proof quarter with dcam potential.

One thing I noticed in several dealers cases were those electic blue or electric purple proof jeffersons in PCGS PR68 holders. Dates were in the early sixties. They really jump out at you - especially the prices - $275-$400!

slothman2000 · August 30, 2005 1:40AM

Maybe because the place is harboring suspected scabs for the Northwest Airlines labor dispute....alot of people tend to stay away from them...I would remember that when the Thanksgiving Weekend show is there..nasty people...

Michigan · August 30, 2005 1:53AM

<< <i>I was also there Friday and noticed the lack of spark.

I also had a nice talk with Mike from Certified Coins of Canada. He had a table, but no coins. He said the new free trade agreement made it impossible for him to bring his coins from Canada!! He was only buying as he is allowed to take them back into Canada!! $375 for a table just to buy sure is a bummer!!

Hope the one in November is better!!! >>

The MSNS show Thanksgiving weekend always seems to attract a good crowd due to the fortunate
timing of starting the day after Thanksgiving when many people have the day off and the start of
Christmas shopping season.

I didn't make the Central States show due to many family things going on. Sounds like I didn't
miss much. I figured it would be a downer with no auction and the Baltimore show just two weeks
before. Too many shows too close together.

Michigan · August 30, 2005 3:16AM

<< <i>Maybe because the place is harboring suspected scabs for the Northwest Airlines labor dispute....alot of people tend to stay away from them...I would remember that when the Thanksgiving Weekend show is there..nasty people... >>

The Michigan economy is very bad right now with thousands of factory jobs gone over the past
few years. High gas prices probably also discouraged people from driving any long distance
to the show. I would guess it mainly drew locals from the immediate Detroit area.

It will be interesting to see how the MSNS Thanksgiving show goes, this one seems to have bucked negative
local economic conditions in the past.

JadeRareCoin · August 30, 2005 3:24AM

It was a decent show for us. Nice retail business but the wholesale side of the business (Andy's table) was dead. We had 2 tables; wholesale and retail (side-by-side). Andy left on Saturday but I stayed until 4:30 on Sunday (show closed at 3:30). I was busy start-to-finish.

I agree with michigan's comments. They are accurate. They only other reason why I think the show had less traffic? MadMarty scared away a lot of potential customers with his rubber chicken. Every once in awhile you could hear women and children screaming, only to look across the room and see MadMarty chasing people with that sickly looking chicken.

MadMarty · August 30, 2005 3:34AM

<< <i>Every once in awhile you could hear women and children screaming, only to look across the room and see MadMarty chasing people with that sickly looking chicken.
>>

Well after what you did to it!! The chicken is attending therepy right now getting ready for the IL show!

Conder101 · August 30, 2005 4:16AM

I was at the show From about noon Friday til Saturday evening. Attendance appeared to be moderate. Dealer to dealer action seemed to me to be steady. It struck me that there were more raw coins available than usual. The slabs were almost exclusively PCGS, NGC and ANACS. I saw a handful of NNC, a few ACG, Bruce Maag had some CCC. Other than those I saw NCI certificates, a new variety of MCCS, and a single IGA certificate. I saw two new novelty NGC slabs, one of which I had seen before and one that I hadn't.

PMG (NGC's paper money certification service) was set up at the show and I was given an advertising and a sample slab from the company that I did not have. Glen Jorde and I had a nice talk about the company and he was also able to give me information about a paper money grading service called Hallmark that I had ntil then only been able to get vague rumors of. (The paper money Hallmark and the coin service HALLMARK are not the same company, or at least they aren't supposed to be. I will know more after Mr Jorde sends me some more information.) Another dealer is sending me pictures of an NGC slab that he owns that was destroyed by the postal service by their irradiation measures during the anthrax scare.

I didn't get a chance to look for any coins, and the only purchase I made was from John Burns, a book on Russian Wire Money. While I was at his table John also sold a copy of my English Conder token legends index and I autographed it for the buyer.

On Saturday afternoon I attending an interesting presentation on colonial paper currency presented by Dan Freidus.

How was the Central States show in Dearborn?

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