I just can't believe SBAs go for this much money

ROBERTB · August 13, 2005 1:32PM

ebay SBA auction

This is the only piece I do NOT have in my slabbed MS66/67 SBA set, and I NEVER will. I'd rather an MS65 for $40.

lordmarcovan · August 13, 2005 1:34PM

airplanenut · August 13, 2005 1:35PM

I'd rather no SBA for free

cladking · August 13, 2005 2:27PM

A real MS-65 at $40 is a steal for this date. Only about 1% of them are really gem.

jcping · August 13, 2005 2:44PM

> I just can't believe SBAs go for this much money

Then, please tell me what is the reasonable price for an 81-S PCGS MS66 SBA dollar?
PCGS price guide shows $700

Scavenger · August 13, 2005 2:51PM

These were some sleeper coins until a few months ago - it's hard to find a high grade (ms 67) 1999-D under $100 now.

Dabigkahuna · August 13, 2005 2:54PM

Agh!

I missed another one.

That would have fit my set very nicely.

Larry
Dabigkahuna

ROBERTB · August 13, 2005 2:59PM

Well, if the PCGS price guide say so, then it must be a bargain.

dizzyfoxx · August 13, 2005 3:02PM

anablep · August 13, 2005 3:33PM

Crazy dude.

jcping · August 13, 2005 4:23PM

Don't forget this 1981-S SBA MS66 thread.

stimmy · August 13, 2005 11:11PM

Why? This E-Bay auction has all three SBA's graded MS- 70 for $36.00............. What a bargin.. Item number: 8324309305

TorinoCobra71 · August 13, 2005 11:32PM

The SET registry nuts are at it again............

TorinoCobra71

cladking · August 14, 2005 12:09AM

<< Why? This E-Bay auction has all three SBA's graded MS- 70 for $36.00............. What a bargin.. Item number: 8324309305 >>

These are no doubt the proofs. It's high grade mint state coins that are rare.

Dennis88 · August 14, 2005 12:13AM

<< Why? This E-Bay auction has all three SBA's graded MS- 70 for $36.00............. What a bargin.. Item number: 8324309305 >>

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cladking · August 14, 2005 12:30AM

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<< Why? This E-Bay auction has all three SBA's graded MS- 70 for $36.00............. What a bargin.. Item number: 8324309305 >>

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LOL

OK, I stand corrected. They're SCG. The P and D coins aren't even as nice as typical though the S might be nearly choice.

Gonfunko · August 14, 2005 1:52AM

Am I the only one who thought I'd never see "beautiful" and "Susan B. Anthony Dollar" in the same sentence?

ziggy29 · August 14, 2005 1:57AM

I've never understood why there can be so many MS-65, 66 and 67 Morgans, and there are so few Ikes or Susies in those grades, despite the fact that the Morgans had another 100 years to be mishandled (time in vaults notwithstanding).

Is the minting process or the handling that much rougher on coins today? Are TPGs just tighter with moderns (perhaps to get resubmissions for the crackout/registry game)? I don't get it.

Cnitas · August 14, 2005 2:44AM

Holy Cow! I bought my MS67 1999 D for my PCGS type set 6 months ago for $29.38 delivered. The price guide now says $175.

I guess even idiots like me can get lucky sometimes.

cladking · August 14, 2005 3:07AM

<< I've never understood why there can be so many MS-65, 66 and 67 Morgans, and there are so few Ikes or Susies in those grades, despite the fact that the Morgans had another 100 years to be mishandled (time in vaults notwithstanding).

Is the minting process or the handling that much rougher on coins today? Are TPGs just tighter with moderns (perhaps to get resubmissions for the crackout/registry game)? I don't get it. >>

Mostly it's because silver is a much softer metal to coin. Another major factor is that
there were much higher standards in those days. People were expected to do good
work and when they didn't bosses and customers would complain. Until recently there
really was very little interest in modern coins and there weren't complaints when the
mint cranked out endless garbage. Note that in the last few years there has been a great
deal of attention focused on mint quality and these coins are getting higher grades now.
Even the poorly made coins are better than the average used to be.

Copper nickel is very hard and light so it wears extremely well but the hardness means
it takes much more to get a full strike and then the dies wear out more quickly. Even
when a coin gets a full strike it might not be sufficient to completely eradicate all the lit-
tle marking which had been on the planchet. Coins are then transported by conveyor
and totes into large bins where they are drawn off the bottom. The weight of the coins
above can inflict much damage on them. They are dropped into large bags where the
first ones in have a great distance to fall.

Even the mint set coins have not been immune to this damage and poor striking. These
are made and handlesd more carefully using new dies and more precise striking but they
are still mass produced. Much of the damage on these is probably caused in the dryer
where they go after washing. They are tumbled with cornmeal in the dryer. The mint set
filling equipment also inflicts a lot of damage. More than 99% of 1980-D mint set half dol-
lars have huge shallow scrapes on them and these plague coins throughout all denomina-
tions and dates in the sets. Even after the coins are finally at rest on the mint set pliofilm
they have to be in the proper position or the crimping machine will run over them and leave
deep gouges. This is especially a problem for larger coins in the sets of the mid-'70's.

There are simply some moderns which are tough even in choice condition. Most of these are
the clads and nickel.

F117ASR · August 14, 2005 3:29AM

What would an MS67 go for?

ROBERTB · August 14, 2005 5:21AM

Probably about $272,000

INXS · August 14, 2005 5:45AM

<< What would an MS67 go for? >>

Probably around $6000+. There is only one and DRG has it. High end SBA's are very few and far between right now.

I just can't believe SBAs go for this much money

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