1. Grade the coin for yourself. 2. I assume the coin in question is uncirculated, since you refer to 2 points. You can be sure of 1 point, but 2 points is not a bad assumption.
With PCI coins you must judge each coin on it's own merit. I've seen PCI holders that are undergraded by a point as well as cleaned and damaged coins not noted as such.
I've seen cleaned coins in the PCI gold holders. At the major grading companys that would earn you a body bag or net grade (ANACS).
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Twodrhrdtp: Here are three tougher date Carson City Morgans which I cracked out of PCI Green Border Label holders had graded by PCGS about a year ago.
I even kept the cracked slabs and labels as documentation and to use as examples for future purchases.
The 1881-CC was a PCI MS-64 PQ and is a gorgeous Semi-PL Frosted Cameo in the older 10 digit S/N holder, which crossed to PCGS MS-64 (still looks 65 to me).
The 1885-CC was a PCI MS62 DMPL in the newer PCI Green Border label with 14 digit S/N holder, which crossed to the same grade as PCGS MS-62 DMPL
The 1890-CC was graded PCI MS62 PL in an older 10 digit S/N Green Border label holder, which crossed to PCGS MS62 (without receiving the PL designation) -- looks MS63 Semi-PL (or possibly 64) to me...
1890-CC PCGS MS62 Morgan Dollar -- New Photo
Stuart
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Kool aid drinkers will tell you that anything and everything in any generation pci holder is bad- which really isn't true. I have found many morgans in older pci holders that are accurately or slightly undergraded- typically, much more caution is advised when dealing with newer gold pci holders......
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I agree with Myggy's comments and would also add that it is always best to see all certified and raw coins in person to give them a thorough looking over prior to purchasing.
It's always best to purchase the coin and not the holder.
Stuart
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Don't confuse PCI green label with PCI gold label. They are two different companies and they had two different grading standards.
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Whenever I try to buy a PCI graded coin all dealers try to charge me the greysheet price for that grade! I personally think they're worth less, but the dealers I talk to don't agree with that!
<< <i>Whenever I try to buy a PCI graded coin all dealers try to charge me the greysheet price for that grade! I personally think they're worth less, but the dealers I talk to don't agree with that! >>
Worth less because they're overgraded, or because they're in PCI holder? I've seen some PCI coins that are worth multiples of sheet, and I've seen many more that are overgraded. COIN, NOT HOLDER.
I have found through personal experience that many dealers focus solely on PCGS and NGC coins, which can in some cases allow one to negotiate a price one or two grades lower for a PCI (or other) certified coin that is either solid for the grade, high-end for the grade, or perhaps even undergraded by a point.
Stuart
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In effect, you have to consider the coin a "raw" coin and judge grade and value based on your examination of the coin.
2. I assume the coin in question is uncirculated, since you refer to 2 points. You can be sure of 1 point, but 2 points is not a bad assumption.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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I even kept the cracked slabs and labels as documentation and to use as examples for future purchases.
The 1881-CC was a PCI MS-64 PQ and is a gorgeous Semi-PL Frosted Cameo in the older 10 digit S/N holder, which crossed to PCGS MS-64 (still looks 65 to me).
The 1885-CC was a PCI MS62 DMPL in the newer PCI Green Border label with 14 digit S/N holder, which crossed to the same grade as PCGS MS-62 DMPL
The 1890-CC was graded PCI MS62 PL in an older 10 digit S/N Green Border label holder, which crossed to PCGS MS62 (without receiving the PL designation) -- looks MS63 Semi-PL (or possibly 64) to me...
1890-CC PCGS MS62 Morgan Dollar -- New Photo
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
It's always best to purchase the coin and not the holder.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Best advice---AVOID
No, best advice: look at the coin, not the holder. Novel concept.
<< <i>Whenever I try to buy a PCI graded coin all dealers try to charge me the greysheet price for that grade! I personally think they're worth less, but the dealers I talk to don't agree with that! >>
Worth less because they're overgraded, or because they're in PCI holder? I've seen some PCI coins that are worth multiples of sheet, and I've seen many more that are overgraded. COIN, NOT HOLDER.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"