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1972 D Aluminum Quarter - now with pics!-

My mother manages a laundry mat, and finds alot of neat coins, quite often. Well this time she found a 1972 D washington quarter thats made out of aluminum. This is no counterfeit, unless someone has some real good set of dies. The details are exact compared to a real quarter. Has anyone found one of these or know anything about them?

Thanks in advance!
Sam


Ok, Sorry for the delay, ive been terribally sick the last few days and was not able to pick up the coin until this morning. So heres some pic's.

pic 1 obverse
pic 2 reverse
pic 3 rim
pic 4 rim
pic 5.1 Grams

I weighed a normal quarter on the same scale and theyre 5.7 this is 5.1-5.2Grams, its about dead even between the two as it kept fluttering from 5.1 to 5.2

Any ideas if she's real or not?
I'd rather be driving a titleist

Comments

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I believe this would be monster news in the numismatic world if it were true. Do you have any pics?
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!


  • << <i>I believe this would be monster news in the numismatic world if it were true. Do you have any pics? >>




    Ill get some in a day or two, hopefully its authentic!
    I'd rather be driving a titleist

  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It could be struck on a foreign planchet, or even an experimental one. It could also be struck on a nickel planchet. When you take pictures of it, take a picture of the edge.

    Richard.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe this would be monster news in the numismatic world if it were true. Do you have any pics? >>



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How much does it weigh? That should tell you if its a normal coin with altered surfaces rather than a mint error.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    We need pics.
    coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section
  • sammydabullsammydabull Posts: 380 ✭✭


    << <i>How much does it weigh? That should tell you if its a normal coin with altered surfaces rather than a mint error. >>



    when you drop it it does not sound like a normal quarter, along with it being extremely light in comparison.


    Ill get pics as soon as i can
    I'd rather be driving a titleist

  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>when you drop it it does not sound like a normal quarter, along with it being extremely light in comparison. >>


    Why would anyone drop a potentially expensive coin???image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You don't drop it from the Empire State Building onto the concrete sidewalk. You drop it a few inches onto a wooden table or something similar.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
    Seems like the weight would be correct for a standard quarter if it worked in the laundry mat machine.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Send it to AES. Odds are against it being real, though. Remember there are counterfeits even of clad quarters.
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    The VERY FIRST thing we have to know is the weight. If it is aluminum it should weigh somewhere around 1.5 grams.
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    What would you all say about the discovery of a set of Bicentennial coins (quarter, half dollar and dollar) minted on 18-karat gold planchets?

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  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    Aluminum?image Gold?image

    Weight?......Pics?


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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    No pix or weights at the moment, or in the foreseeable future. But at least 2 sets exist, and they're from the mint. They have the weight and look of gold too.

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    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536


    << <i>What would you all say about the discovery of a set of Bicentennial coins (quarter, half dollar and dollar) minted on 18-karat gold planchets? >>


    Well since there is absolutely no record of the Mint ever striking any such set, and I don't think the mint was striking any gold coins for any other country at that time so there would be no reason to have gold planchets on hand, I would be highly sceptical. So first question is, as usual, what are the weights?
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Would such coins suffer the fate of confiscation if discovered?

    imageimageimage
    .....GOD
    image

    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,726 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like the weight would be correct for a standard quarter if it worked in the laundry mat machine. >>



    Most laundry machines have extremely simple coin discriminators. Until recently
    almost anything with the correct cross sectional area would work but most will
    now at least reject coins that are attracted to a magnet.

    I have seen a few machines with more sophisticated slug rejectors.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • ill be picking the coin up in a couple hours, so ill have some pics and the actual weight by the evening for you guys image
    I'd rather be driving a titleist

  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    << What would you all say about the discovery of a set of Bicentennial coins (quarter, half dollar and dollar) minted on 18-karat gold planchets? >>


    "Well since there is absolutely no record of the Mint ever striking any such set, and I don't think the mint was striking any gold coins for any other country at that time so there would be no reason to have gold planchets on hand, I would be highly sceptical. So first question is, as usual, what are the weights?" --Conder101


    I realize the mint never officially struck such a set, and that's why I wonder if the coins would be confiscated if discovered. What if they are discovered, and authenticated? Wouldn't it be similar to the 1974 aluminum cent (although those were officially minted)?



    imageimageimage
    .....GOD
    image

    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22


  • << <i>I realize the mint never officially struck such a set >>



    If Conder101 hasn't heard anything about it, I doubt it ever happened, officially or unofficially.
    I heard they were making a French version of Medal of Honor. I wonder how many hotkeys it'll have for "surrender."
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    Where are the pictures???
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could be struck on nickel stock or planchet?

    Tbig
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536


    << <i>If Conder101 hasn't heard anything about it, I doubt it ever happened, officially or unofficially. >>


    You never know, I don't hear about everything
  • Ok, Sorry for the delay, ive been terribally sick the last few days and was not able to pick up the coin until this morning. So heres some pic's.

    pic 1 obverse
    pic 2 reverse
    pic 3 rim
    pic 4 rim
    pic 5.1 Grams

    I weighed a normal quarter on the same scale and theyre 5.7 this is 5.1-5.2Grams, its about dead even between the two as it kept fluttering from 5.1 to 5.2

    Any ideas if she's real or not?
    I'd rather be driving a titleist

  • SmallSizedGuySmallSizedGuy Posts: 503 ✭✭✭
    Pic 3 makes it look like a cast counterfeit...

    After looking at the pictures again, I say the coin is counterfeit.
    Jim Hodgson



    Collector of US Small Size currency, Atlanta FRNs, and Georgia nationals since 1977. Researcher of small size US type - seeking serial number data for all FRN star notes, Series 1928 to 1934-D. Life member SPMC.



  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Strange... The rim looks odd. Is it clad?

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a cast counterfeit. The seam along the edge of the coin is a dead giveaway, the "flat strike" look to the coin is also a red flag for cast counterfeit.
  • I think the pic of the rim says it all.
    The reeding doesn't even line up.

    I don't know the "how" but it is fake.

    JMHO

    Ralph


    I just read the posts above and I guess the "how" is cast counterfeit.

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  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    I too believe it is a cast counterfeit.
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Looks like two halves joined together, i.e. a fake, but NOT a cast counterfeit.

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    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • makes me wonder if it was a game currency or something. pretty odd i think...
    I'd rather be driving a titleist

  • No doubt in my mind...fake.
  • SmallSizedGuySmallSizedGuy Posts: 503 ✭✭✭
    Definitely a cast counterfeit. The seam on the edge is from the two halves of the sand casting.
    Jim Hodgson



    Collector of US Small Size currency, Atlanta FRNs, and Georgia nationals since 1977. Researcher of small size US type - seeking serial number data for all FRN star notes, Series 1928 to 1934-D. Life member SPMC.



  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with the aforementioned that it is fake. One of the pictures seems like the coin had been acid treated, too.
  • xbobxbob Posts: 1,979
    There are some coins used by magicians that are made to split and conceal other coins. Perhaps this is one that has had both halves glued together. That's just another idea to throw into the mix...

    Try holding it upright and flipping it over to see if the die alignment is correct.
    -Bob
    collections: Maryland related coins & exonumia, 7070 Type set, and Video Arcade Tokens.
    The Low Budget Y2K Registry Set

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