A complete waste of free grading certificates!!!

kryptonitecomics · July 28, 2005 6:33AM

Man, I got my butt handed to me with me free grading certificates.....

Line Item Year MintMark Variety/Pedigree Denom. Proof Grade StrikeChar Comments

001 1942 10C MS OBV SCRATCHED (Beautiful toner)

002 1883 O S$1 MS REV SCRATCHED (Beautiful toner)

003 1884 O S$1 MS 64 (Looked like a lock 65)

004 1887 S$1 MS 62 (Looked 63/64) (Beautiful toner)

005 1890 CC TOP-100 VAM-4 TAIL BAR S$1 MS IMPROPERLY CLEANED (It's only like a F-12...looks fine in hand?)

So I am not crying that I have been ripped off or anything.....I certainly remember the scratches on the back of the 1883 O, but never guessed it would no grade. I would have never bought the 84 O if I thought it was a 64...but it's a PQ 64 at least. The 1942 was purchased raw from Barry Stupler....so I am shocked that it got a No grade....I sent in 5 that I bought from him so now I am concerned for the rest

. .......and finally...the 1890-CC was a gift from a friend......it looks like a normal well circulated Morgan...but I will have to look at that one closely to see what I missed.

All in all a thoroughly dissapointing submission.....but I guess I have no one to blame but myself

chabot510 · July 28, 2005 6:56AM

sorry about the news

moosesr · July 28, 2005 6:58AM

Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!

streeter · July 28, 2005 7:02AM

Kryptonite

sorry for the mess. It reminds me of my last submission.

LeeG · July 28, 2005 7:13AM

Sorry to get this news. Makes me real nervous now on a submission just received at PCGS.

max911 · July 28, 2005 7:38AM

Sure wish the TPG's would change to a report card system so we understand the reason for their grading

Myqqy · July 28, 2005 8:26AM

Sure wish the TPG's would change to a report card system so we understand the reason for their grading

I still think that you should get more for your money than a bodybag- I think everything should be slabbed...... or if you're really going to jack somebody up, then some type of notation as to why would be beneficial.....

RYK · July 28, 2005 8:31AM

I agree, especially at NGC, where they already have the NCS entity, why not have the option of sending the BB'd coins right over to NCS for authentication, detail grade, and description? It makes perfect sense to me.

fountainheadgold · July 28, 2005 8:32AM

Shane, that is a tough one

cho10 · July 28, 2005 8:55AM

Sure wish the TPG's would change to a report card system so we understand the reason for their grading

As most TPG services brag about each grader examining from 800 to 1000 coins a day (at least 100 coins an hour with no breaks) there is no wonder that some coins just get graded wrongly.

Earlier this year I sent in a RAW 1890-CC Tailbar that I purchased from a Chicago dealer and an 1887-O that I broke out of a different service's MS64 PL slab.

I got it back MS63. The 1890-CC came back graded as I had expected it.

The fact is that is the 1887-O has full mirrors to a degree higher than a few PL's that I received back from PCGS on other occasions. One of these years I'll resubmit That's about all you can do. Certainly coin grading is anything but a science and most certainly not predictable.

dizzyfoxx · July 28, 2005 8:57AM

Sorry to hear that. I'm sure it was a major dissappointment.

kryptonitecomics · July 28, 2005 9:27AM

I think the CC shocked me the most..........it truly does look like you normal grey avg circulated Morgan.........

joeyuk · July 28, 2005 9:57AM

At least yours were free.

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
1 22014234 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014235 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014236 1970-D 50C USA MS63
1 22014237 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014238 1970-D 50C USA MS63
1 22014239 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014240 1970-D 50C USA MS65
1 22014241 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014242 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014243 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014244 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014245 1970-D 50C USA MS64
1 22014246 1970-D 50C USA MS63
1 22014247 1970-D 50C USA MS64

Date Received: 06/24/2005
Date Shipped: 07/26/2005

100proof1957 · July 28, 2005 9:59AM

Smoebody has to fall on the Grenade !

I did mine earlier this year !

I feel yur pain !

kryptonitecomics · July 28, 2005 10:09AM

Yes very dishartening...here is the 1942 Dime that they said was scratched......which it may be...just need to get it back in hand.................look at the monster rainbow on this coin..........what a waste!!!!!

100proof1957 · July 28, 2005 10:28AM

Nice coin !

I thinks you got jobbed !

bushmaster8 · July 28, 2005 10:31AM

It's been claimed by some that they are tougher on Freebies.

But HRHall says no way the graders know when a submission is a freebie.

But this is an NGC submission anyway right?

kryptonitecomics · July 28, 2005 11:05AM

Yep NGC.......I have never had a problem with them so that tells me.....I ain't looking at my coins close enough. See that's the problem for me and collecting toners........I don't care what the grades are I just like the color so I don't scrutinize over them with a loop before sending them.......I have got to be more careful....as I might have caught one or two of the problem coins.

I guess I will send them to ANACS so at least they will be in a holder..........I feel like banging my head against the wall......shoot...shoot....shoot...

bestclser1 · July 28, 2005 5:18PM

Shane,It could have been worse if you PAID to get screwed.

stman · July 28, 2005 5:22PM

Sometimes it's best to look at the coin for what it is as far as problems, grade etc. without letting the color influence/distract you.
THEN pay attention to color.

kryptonitecomics · July 28, 2005 11:25PM

<< <i>Sometimes it's best to look at the coin for what it is as far as problems, grade etc. without letting the color influence/distract you.
THEN pay attention to color. >>

Yes appearently....I didn't look at the coin suraces at all.....at least not past the color....well lesson leaerned...ad I have 5 more freebies now so...you can be sure I will be going over those coins with a microscope

nankraut · July 29, 2005 12:38AM

Ouch!!!!!!!!!!
Yikes!

Better luck next time.

streeter · July 29, 2005 7:50AM

Kryptonite

I just saw your name on the ngc ad in NN.

NICE

kryptonitecomics · July 29, 2005 11:04AM

<< <i>Kryptonite

I just saw your name on the ngc ad in NN.

NICE

>>

I'm famous!!!!

A complete waste of free grading certificates!!!

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