Am I supposed to believe this is an original unopened proof set?

relayer · July 25, 2005 12:02PM

I got an "unopened" proof set from olduscoins on eBay.

OK, maybe I can believe the color was off in that printing run, and maybe I can believe they changed the font, but would the US Treasury print the comma after the period for the state abbreviation?

Russ · July 25, 2005 12:08PM

You got stiffed™.

Russ, NCNE

LucyBop · July 25, 2005 12:08PM

what russel said.

tjkillian · July 25, 2005 12:09PM

Were they using the two letter state abbreviation in 1964? I thought Pennsylvania was abbreviated PENNA or PENN back then. When were Zip Codes starting to come in to use? By 1964?

Tom

fountainheadgold · July 25, 2005 12:10PM

USC · July 25, 2005 12:11PM

<< <i>Were they using the two letter state abbreviation in 1964? I thought Pennsylvania was abbreviated PENNA or PENN back then. When were Zip Codes starting to come in to use? By 1964?

Tom >>

Ummmm.... Okay... Buh-Bye

relayer · July 25, 2005 12:25PM

The non-orange proof set pictured is genuine and for comparison purposes.

Zip (Zone Improvement Plan) codes were introduced starting in 1963.

From 1956 to 1963 the sets have "30" after the city - before that they just had "Philadelphia, PA"

100proof1957 · July 25, 2005 12:31PM

whats the keystroke for that tm thingy !

silvereaglecoins · July 25, 2005 12:32PM

Reproduction Manila envelopes are readily available to coin dealers to "cheat" customers into thinking they are buying an original mint-sealed proof set. The envelope shown on the right is definitely a forgery and I would neg the seller if they don't offer a complete refund. The original envelopes used an "Engraver's Gothic" font and not the "Time New Roman" font shown on the bogus envelope. 1963 and earlier envelopes say PHILADELPHIA 30, PA. and 1964 and later envelopes say PHILADELPHIA, PA. 19130

Also, reproduction envelopes usually are more orange in color and look too "new". Forty year old envelopes typically have some color fade and a distinct slightly musty smell.

coppercoins · July 25, 2005 2:00PM

You would think if a person was going to fake an envelope they would at least use the correct font...

So if you're out there watching, Einstein....it's called "copperplate", and is a standard with many software packages. Times New Roman is a very bad substitute. My tip o' the day - no charge!

Myqqy · July 25, 2005 2:23PM

That's really embarrassing....... are you going to ask for a refund??

relayer · July 25, 2005 2:53PM

I temped to open it to see what piece of crap set he put in there, but yes it's going back

jdsinva · July 25, 2005 10:02PM

I bought from this seller one time. He used to put pictures of his grandkids and tout his ANA membership like that was suppose to make me feel better when he sent me over graded coins. I've learned touting an ANA membership is just that, nothing more. It does not mean they know how to grade or detect cleaned coins.

Am I supposed to believe this is an original unopened proof set?

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