Is it true that you can't beat 9colors in an ebay auction?

PutTogether · June 21, 2005 4:29PM

I always heard he begins with a tiny opening bid, but come crunch time, all hell breaks loose and you can't beat him without waaaay overpaying? Does this match up with any other's experience?

If so, he's bidding on a coin he is certainly going to have to pay for.

kyleknap · June 21, 2005 4:53PM

He actually wins a very low percentage of the items he bids on....

The guy has a great eye! A lot of those coins are the same ones on my watchlist.

Kyle

GAT · June 21, 2005 6:30PM

I draw a different conclusion from this guy bidding on only one seller's auctions and winning very few. Three guesses and two don't count for what I think.

Frank · June 21, 2005 10:12PM

I agree with your one source observation and I have the same guess that you have.

Frank

USN (RET) 1954-1974

pharmer · June 22, 2005 12:17AM

<< I always heard he begins with a tiny opening bid, but come crunch time, all hell breaks loose and you can't beat him without waaaay overpaying? Does this match up with any other's experience?

If so, he's bidding on a coin he is certainly going to have to pay for. >>

Which coin are you referring to?

bestclser1 · June 22, 2005 12:24AM

I have won an auction that he bid on before.

pharmer · June 22, 2005 12:38AM

One here, Lloyd, we could form one of the world's smallest clubs

OffMetal · June 22, 2005 12:52AM

<< Is it true that you can't beat 9colors in an ebay auction? >>

The only way you can find out is to bid $10,000 on an 82 CC Morgan

I've always thought jokutpa was really hard to beat... but that's me.

Ben

KurtHorn · June 22, 2005 2:11AM

Is it true he only bids on coins from one seller? Very suspicious. Feedback kept private? Very suspicious. A feedback score of only 20? Very suspicious. It is possbile for this to be honest, but it does look suspicious.

MrD · June 22, 2005 3:28AM

Good people of the forum I would like you to take a look at this past thread concerning 9 colors. I know that opinions are hard to change but this well respected member of the forum has.
9 colors apology

Russ · June 22, 2005 3:46AM

<< A feedback score of only 20? >>

One of those is me. This bidder is the real deal.

Russ, NCNE

pharmer · June 22, 2005 4:02AM

I'll try this once more. When I first noticed, I had my doubts, and instead of wondering, asked Dick. His explanation made sense, and proved out over time. Examine it carefully, and you will note that he bids early at a low price, in my opinion to mark for possible buying at the end. Positive first impression kind of thing, I do this too. Then, if he bids at the end at all, it is in the last few seconds to win, never a losing raise-the-final-price kind of bid. It's quite clear.

Bochiman · June 22, 2005 4:20AM

It's good to be wary, but too many people constantly assume the worst in every instance.
That may be fine for oneself, but, it shouldn't be used to put a shadow on others....

MrD · June 22, 2005 4:28AM

Bochiman
You hit the nail right on the head!! Its tough to get beaten up all the time with the same accusations over and over again. The only thing that we coin dealers have is our reputations and to have them tarnished unjustly is a travesty. Like I always said if you are in an insane asylum, how do you convince someone that you don't deserve to be there?

stman · June 22, 2005 4:29AM

Hi MrD. Glad to see you holding on to that post from Russ VERY close.

MrD · June 22, 2005 4:32AM

I keep it under my pillow for a rainy day. Hey its raining in Boston!

JrGMan2004 · June 22, 2005 4:48AM

I just beat 9colors this weekend on a coin that i thought was a fair price...

Oh, btw, MrD, my MO is in the mail

pharmer · June 22, 2005 4:54AM

If he bid in the last few seconds, rather than just a few days before to get it on his bidding list, you've done something.

crispy · June 22, 2005 4:59AM

This is a general question with no finger pointing intended.

How do parties on eBay get "private" feedback ratings?
Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of feedback?
As a seller don't you want to know something about the parties bidding on your auctions?

Russ · June 22, 2005 5:04AM

<< As a seller don't you want to know something about the parties bidding on your auctions? >>

The only thing I want to know is how quickly payment arrives.

Russ, NCNE

Baley · June 22, 2005 5:08AM

This 9colors must have quite an ecclectic collection!

Bids on coins of all grades, from all countries, also will bid on medals and such... pretty much bids on anything, but only ONLY from one seller

Must be one heck of a seller!

MrD · June 22, 2005 5:22AM

The only question that I can answer is that after having dealt with my customer for some time I hold him in the highest regard and would do nothing to discourage him from bidding in my auctions. Why people buy what they want is really not my business but I do feel fortunate that he has put his trust in me and has decided that he would rather not buy anywhere else.

dthigpen · June 22, 2005 5:23AM

<< This 9colors must have quite an ecclectic collection!

Bids on coins of all grades, from all countries, also will bid on medals and such... pretty much bids on anything, but only ONLY from one seller

Must be one heck of a seller! >>

I have similar buying habits from some sellers. Doesn't mean he's a shill. (Not implying that you thought he was) For instance, I'd bid on pretty much anything that braddick is selling (Not that I do).

MrD · June 22, 2005 5:25AM

My take on private feedback is that although it sometimes looks suspicious ebay affords the right for individuals to do it much like almost every other auction venue

Is it true that you can't beat 9colors in an ebay auction?

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