POLL: Did this coin receive the DCAM designation at PCGS?

Russ · June 21, 2005 5:45AM

Did it?

Russ, NCNE

Baley · June 21, 2005 5:46AM

It certainly should.

TorinoCobra71 · June 21, 2005 5:48AM

It Should....and if it didnt, why not?

TorinoCobra71

mercurydimeguy · June 21, 2005 5:49AM

No, it should have received DCAM designation.

LucyBop · June 21, 2005 5:49AM

watch out for Russel, he's sneaky....

morgannut2 · June 21, 2005 5:49AM

I presume you're unhappy and DH will be soon seeing this one!

mgoodm3 · June 21, 2005 5:51AM

Frost a little weak on the rev lettering, wing and shield. that's my answer and I'm sticking to it.

Millertime · June 21, 2005 5:55AM

<< watch out for Russel, he's sneaky.... >>

I voted yes and I think this is a setup for the next coin he shows. If this 81-S is DCAM then how come (next coin Russ shows) isn't.

ziggy29 · June 21, 2005 5:56AM

The fact that you're asking tells me that the answer is "no" and you think You Got Stiffed by PCGS!

Wolf359 · June 21, 2005 5:56AM

They don't get much better. I voted 'Yes', but the TPG's seem to be preferring a point bump these days.

It's too bad, because the dealers are marking up the prices as a result saying the coins are undergraded.

LucyBop · June 21, 2005 5:59AM

btw, quit flooding the board with hairyheads....

morgannut2 · June 21, 2005 6:02AM

Show a Baldyhead DCAM--- How 'bout a 55 to match the wheels??

Chazpear · June 21, 2005 6:05AM

No - weak frost on the Observe L, E, and R of Liberty and the TRUS of Trust also weak frost on the UNITED STATES on the reverse

My SWAG

Russ · June 21, 2005 6:09AM

You guys crack me up.

Russ, NCNE

weresteve · June 21, 2005 6:16AM

<< btw, quit flooding the board with hairyheads.... >>

Whatcha talkin about LucyBop ... looks like you have more than your fair share of a full head of hair ...

Maybe all those Frankies should be changed over to LucyBops ... at least the would look better ... and have a swingin' beat to them ...

(Yeah ... I know ... just being silly ...)

ss350camaro · June 21, 2005 6:18AM

no, ... the lettering is not frosted enough.

joefro · June 21, 2005 6:20AM

<< The fact that you're asking tells me that the answer is "no" and you think You Got Stiffed by PCGS! >>

+1?

Russellp23 · June 21, 2005 6:21AM

The reverse may not get the nod.

Coinhusker1 · June 21, 2005 6:32AM

Yes. I recall HRH saying that lettering frost weakness does not necessarily DQ a coin for DCAM.

Overall the coin is dripping with frost with jet-black mirrors and should DCAM.

dthigpen · June 21, 2005 6:33AM

I voted No, due to the breaks in the reverse frosting.

JRocco · June 21, 2005 6:35AM

That coin is 100% DCAM --- or should be.

Russ · June 21, 2005 6:35AM

<< I recall HRH saying that lettering frost weakness does not necessarily DQ a coin for DCAM. >>

That's correct. It is a fallacy that minor frost breaks preclude the DCAM designation.

Russ, NCNE

paigowjohnny · June 21, 2005 6:36AM

Modern crap...

I voted yes

RobHB · June 21, 2005 6:37AM

Is that a "birth mark" on it also?

I say it did DCAM (which means it probably didn't as I'm the biggest contra-indicator in history!).

ms70 · June 21, 2005 6:39AM

<< That coin is 100% DCAM --- or should be. >>

I agree but I get the feeling this thread wouldn't exist if it got the DCAM.

Russ · June 21, 2005 6:39AM

<< Is that a "birth mark" on it also? >>

Nah, break in the frost. It's common for the 1981 to have these little breaks in the sideburn area and on the shield.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · June 21, 2005 6:42AM

OOH! It's a dead heat at 19 to 19!

Russ, NCNE

morgannut2 · June 21, 2005 6:49AM

So, by definition, at 19-19--- 50% of collectors can't grade a modern if it hits them in the face.

ss350camaro · June 21, 2005 6:50AM

I still say no................. just because i can

Russ · June 21, 2005 6:51AM

<< So, by definition, at 19-19--- 50% of collectors can't grade a modern if it hits them in the face. >>

Well, to be fair, it's an image not an actual coin in-hand. To further be fair, it is me that posted the thread.

Russ, NCNE

DHeath · June 21, 2005 6:57AM

Dead nuts white Dcam. Typical of 81s of both types.

SanctionII · June 21, 2005 9:25AM

This may be another facetious question posed by Russ, just like yesterday's question about whether a 1961 Frankie would CAM.

However, my response is who cares, it is a 1981 clad half. It is very nice, but I bet one could find multiple examples of this coin with similar frost in 1981 OGP proof sets.

CarlWohlforth · June 21, 2005 9:31AM

It looks awesome from here. I would call it DCAM without hesitation. Well, I might hesitate while I'm thinking if this is a trick quetion or Russ got shafted or something. However that coin sure looks like it has the frost and mirror like fields needed so I voted DCAM.

Russ · June 21, 2005 9:53AM

<< However, my response is who cares, it is a 1981 clad half. >>

Actually, it's a Type 2 clad half that's worth a lot more than I paid for it.

Those who were not swayed by the possibility that this was a "sneaky" poll, (not that I would do one of those

), and stuck with DCAM are right. It, and it's twin, did grade PR69DCAM. It's, as Don said, a "dead nuts" deep cameo.

I picked both up at a show for $10 each because the dealer, who knew they were Type 2's, graded them PR65.

Russ, NCNE

LucyBop · June 21, 2005 6:34PM

See how sneaky Russel really is? He post's a poll about a obvious slam dunk DCAM coin. The sneak!

jonesy · June 21, 2005 6:44PM

MadMarty · June 21, 2005 8:20PM

Not only it is a DCAM it's a 69DCAM!

AgMe · June 21, 2005 8:33PM

Hello all,

Even though the lettering is kind of weak here and there (& you never know w/ Russ & photoshop...

), compared to other DCAMS, it should be (a DCAM).

At first I thought Russ had photoshoped the fields, so black! PR69 DCAM Nice!

PS You suck.

Edit: I'm curious what that looks like in hand.

~g

XXX · June 21, 2005 8:46PM

It had better.

DHeath · June 21, 2005 8:53PM

For the period from 1978 to 2002, the PCGS pop reports don't list any Kennedys that are not designated Dcam. There are quite a few post 2002.

POLL: Did this coin receive the DCAM designation at PCGS?

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