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Anyone know anything about coal company tokens?

A feller came by wanting to sell me these.There were 90 of them,some were dups.Knowing nothing about them,I offered him $40.He allowed he had to have $300 so he took them back home.An ebay search says a few go for $30 each while smoe go for a buck or two.Should I have offered more,or am I better off without them ?




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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should have offered him more. These are a tough field to break into because
    no one will sell any for less than a dollar. Likely this has to do with several factors
    and is at least partially justified. But they can be expensive to collect because there
    are thousands different and no easy way to break in.

    The collection is worth at least $90 wholesale but you'd have to ship it since a buyer
    might never come along. While my knowledge of these is very limited this looks like
    an actual collection rather than a mere accumulation of the most easily acquired issues.
    It wouldn't surprise me if it would bring $300 or more on ebay quite easily.
    Tempus fugit.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tempus fugit.
  • Nice piece of history no matter what they are worth. For what were these types of tokens used?
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is the money one needed to buy back one's soul at the company store.

    It's called scrip and was used to pay workers (usually coal miners). It was redeem-
    able only at the company store but was often insufficient for their needs so they had
    to borrow from the store. Most miners were deep in debt to the employer and their
    wages could not be used anywhere else.
    Tempus fugit.
  • I've got a few...My favorite being one from OLGA coal company. If anyone watched the "October Sky" it's the mine that the movie was framed around. I used to work with one of the actual members of the rocket boys, coalwood is only about 20 miles from my town. I could sale the whole collection in Beckley at any gun show.
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  • Thanx cladking.
  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    I found one in a cent roll once and stuck it on eBay for a buck. A week later the hammer went down at a whopping $37. I don't know much of anything about them, but they are rather scarce. I don't see many of them around.
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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    Better hunt that guy down and tell him you'll buy them at his price.
    This is a case where you'll be telling people in the future, how you screwed up years ago when you had a chance to buy these.

    Ray
  • I have a few of these and would be interested in buying them if you can find that feller.... PM me if you do.

    My main business is related to the coal business and I have always found them interesting.
    ...AlaBill


  • << <i>I have a few of these and would be interested in buying them if you can find that feller.... PM me if you do.

    My main business is related to the coal business and I have always found them interesting. >>




    I'll see if I can catch up with him.
    I work 5PM to 5AM all weekend so it'll probably be Monday before you hear from me.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone on these boards, less than 18 months ago, was putting together a set of WV, I believe, coal tokens and he apparently had done quite a bit of research on the subject. If it's important enough for you, I would take the time and search the archives for that thread.
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  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    If he was doing WV he has a MAJOR challenge ahead of him. There are two books on this series. One covers WV, the other covers the rest of the country, and the WV book is the big one. There were over 800 scrip issuing mines in WV.

    Cladking, what do you mean about there being no easy way to break into them?

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Cladking, what do you mean about there being no easy way to break into them? >>



    It's possible to find very inexpensive examples of most things so that you can
    start a collection and begin trading for what you need. Or you can find a large
    stash of a specifiic item and start trading them.

    If you can't trade then you just have to pay the going rate and it's $1 per token.

    Then you'll still have to work the scarcer issues after you get a good start on the
    common ones and these will easily go five dollars to a hundred with a few very de-
    sirable rarities bring more.

    The lowest price I ever saw may have been a special price but was 2500 for $2500.
    There was "great duplication" in this batch.


    For comparison you can buy tax tokens for 4c, amusement tokens 1/2c, Mardi Gras 2c.
    good-fors 25c, telephone tokens 25c, & transportation tokens 3c. It's very difficult to
    find people willing to trade one type of token for another and not likely to work well if
    you do because it is difficult to make trades which with both parties are satisfied. Coal
    and lumber tokens take more commitment since it's a huge area and has to be fleshed
    out at over a dollar per token.

    Tempus fugit.

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