I had a 45.70 Government back in the 1950's
lathmach
Posts: 4,720 ✭
Real big cartridge as I remember. Don't remember if it was a Henry or Model 1886 Winchester.
I let this seller know what the 45.70 Govt counterstamp is probably about.
Ray
I let this seller know what the 45.70 Govt counterstamp is probably about.
Ray
0
Comments
Elephant gun: .600 nitro express
Adolf Hitler
that coin was a counter balance for a powder scale to weigh 70 grains of powder !
Proof
<< <i>im gonna take a wild azz guess !
that coin was a counter balance for a powder scale to weigh 70 grains of powder !
Proof >>
should be 96.45 grains plus or minus 1.5 as minted.
biggest load i could find was 60 grains,but i suspect that was smokeless powder,not black powder.
all gun nuts are free to chime in !
I have a govt. 45/70 Marlin. Big Bullet! They also made .45's with over 100 grains of black powder, .45/100 is the biggest I've seen and that was in in an old Springfield Trapdoor. The early cases were made of tin, I think, and would expand to much in the chamber causing jams. Custer and his troops had a lot of these. Later the cases were made of brass and that took care of the problem.
All I could find on the 1875-CC 20c Liberty was that it weighed 5 grams and had a mintage of 133,000.
Larry
Dabigkahuna
<< <i>Had a friend who's wife was living in the bush of Alaska - she killed a prowling bear with the 45.70. >>
It would take one of those 'Alaskan women' to be able to fire this gun !!
Paul
How many grains in a gram?
If not, it was more powerful, but since you can't put "too much" powder in a black powder gun, it doesn't really matter. It would just make the charges uniform if they lacked a proper weight.
<< <i>Good lord, it's an elephant gun! >>
No relation to this ...
Henry Big Boy
Steve
Happy Rock Wrens
You're having delusions of grandeur again. - Susan Ivanova
Well, if you're gonna have delusions, may as well go for the really satisfying ones. - Marcus Cole
course i am,but thats a topic for the OF !
I would not want to get hit by one but it would NOT be my preferred calibre against a grizzly bear. I have a 338 Win Mag and a 300 Rem Ultra Mag that I would rather use. The saying speed kills is very true. A 45-70 will push a 405 grain bullet at 1330 feet per second generating 1600 foot pounds of energy, while a 338 will push a 250 grain bullet at 2660 feet per second generating over 3900 foot pounds of energy.
Just to put in comparison, many 22 calibre rimfires are just as fast as a 45-70. It is mostly just a good calibre to use to punch holes in things.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
much flatter shooting !
notice how i snuck the coin ref in there !
<< <i>
No relation to this ...
Henry Big Boy
Steve >>
Or this......
10"& a 14" Barrel I use a 300Grain Hallow point
54.7 Grains of 4064smokeless powder with a mag primer with a Redfield scope
Also had a 303 British Barrel made
My little Hand Cannon
If I had to guess the coin was used as a counter weight for reloading Back in the day
IMHO
Paul
<< <i>easier to hit a Buffaloe (nickel) at 400 yds with the .338
much flatter shooting !
notice how i snuck the coin ref in there ! >>
Actually I plan on doing this in the summer. I'm going to start out with a Morgan then work my way down to a dime. I should have no problem with the dollar but the dime might give me fits. I'll post pics.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>That 338 is more than overkill. the indian's killed them with the bow and arrow before the mint made collecting possible. Hmmmm. >>
You mean like those scenes from the movie "Dances with Wolves? What a farce that was; reality that was NOT. I saw a friend shoot an antelope at about 50 yards with a .45-70 500 gr cast bullet. The bullet went right through and ricocheted off the ground on tuther side. Never thought you needed a 500 gr bullet for a 400 gr critter but what do I know. Shudda melted that lead down and cast counterfeit coins with it.