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Is this Morgan an end roll or bag toner?

RGLRGL Posts: 3,784 ✭
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I have received differing opinions on this 1884-O that arrived today ... I love the muted, pastel toning. Reverse is brilliant. End roll or bag toned?

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The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)

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  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    Hmmmm tough call. I would go with bag toned. I have a few that the reverse is still white. Just doesnt seem to have the characterstics of end roll toned. End roll toners normally have straight sharp lines, and different shapes. Bags normally either have a crescent or random pattern.

    Pretty coin though!
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tough call... I think endroller. I think I see a few faint lines, and the colors are unusual for a bag toner, IMO...
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  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    Probably an endroller that was moved several times - wasn't allowed to sit so the folds could get imprinted properly. It might've also been at the end of a shutgun roll
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    maybe neither one.
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  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    Might be album toned.

    Front exposed and the back covered.
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    The linearity if the color hues from the edge to the coin's center at several points suggests to me it was roll toned, although it's moved around and be rubbed a bit.
    morgannut2
  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207 ✭
    I also had a some doubt...but I believe that there are clear markers (tone lines) that distinguish it as end roll toning.
  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    If the reverse is toned, I would say envolope toned. i might even say the same if the reverse is not toned.
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  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    I think it is end-of-roll tone. There are enough faint straight lines to make me lean that way.

    Brian
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    I'll go with neither.
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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    I'm guessing envelope toned also
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    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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