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To dip or not to dip
skerke
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Well now that I've read that dipping isn't the worse thing in the world for a coin, my question is - to dip or not to dip? I would like some food for thought. My 2 cents worth - pun intended 1) never dip (clean) your coins 2) Dip that coin if you want a nice a shiny one. 3) Don't dip a toned coin, only a dirty one. 4)I like what one delaer told me if your going to clean it use a hacksaw.
Just curious on the thoughts of board members.
Just curious on the thoughts of board members.
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and depends on personal preference.
some coins are helped with the proper curating methods.
the thing is, to me anyway, if the coin is cleaned and looks like it was cleaned,,not good.
the best cleaning job is transparent and shows not a hint of the coin being tampered with.
jm2c
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
IMO, every time a coin is dipped, cleaned, curated, etc (unnecessarily)... you increase the value of a like "undisturbed" coin.
dipping a coin is DOCTORING, therefore it's bad, therefore don't do it.
yes, it really is that simple.
K S
<< <i>do you mean most people mean, ie. dipping in acid or some solution that changes the surface of the coin? yes, i thought so. well here goes:
dipping a coin is DOCTORING, therefore it's bad, therefore don't do it.
yes, it really is that simple.
K S >>
I agree with this 99.99 percent.
Then again, there is always a case to the idea that its your coin, do what you want. If you want to melt, scratch, throw away, or spend it at face, it belongs to you, and is well within your rights. I may disagree (and i do) but what ultimately matters it what you want to do.
<< <i>Dipping is the original AT process, changing a coin's natural appearance >>
Yes, you should never dip off that "natural" haze, or that "natural" spot that was "naturally" on the coin when it was first minted.
Russ, NCNE
Then they do like this:
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The minute you dip a circulated coin it's value is going down by a lot. >>
I'd have to disagree with such a broad statement. I think it depends on the particular coin and its condition. I have seen many circulated coins that have been dipped and a good number of them wood look fine to most.
Edited to add: I said what I did above, despite the fact that in most cases, I am opposed to dipping.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I fundamentally agree with dorkkarl on this one. The real problem is that most dippers are dips who don't know what they are doing. Many a coin has been irreparably harmed by its being "bright" dipped by a dip.
I won't go so far as to say bright dipping is never appropriate, but unless one knows what they are doing, the coin should be left alone.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
such is not the same as dipping for the sole purpose of IMproving, which is doctoring.
(btw, legend will disagree)
K S
I guess that is a matter of personal opinion. I have also seen a good number of circulated coins that have been dipped, scrubbed, and cleaned. However, I've never seen one that increased in value after cleaning except when the buyer was a novice and didn't know what to look or the dealer told him it was an excellent coin.
<< <i>note that russ's example of dipping is for CURATING purposes. the hazy crap on those coins, allowed to set there, will damage the surfaces, cause milkspots, whatever. the purpose isn't to IMprove the COIN >>
No the purpose isn't to improve the coin, it's to line his pockets with profit.
<< <i>I guess that is a matter of personal opinion. I have also seen a good number of circulated coins that have been dipped, scrubbed, and cleaned. However, I've never seen one that increased in value after cleaning except when the buyer was a novice and didn't know what to look or the dealer told him it was an excellent coin. >>
Steve32k, I wasn't speaking on the subject of dipped coins increasing in value - I was simply disagreeing with your:
<< <i>The minute you dip a circulated coin it's value is going down by a lot. >>
<< <i>No the purpose isn't to improve the coin, it's to line his pockets with profit. >>
That assertion might have merit but for the fact that I still own the coin and have no intention of selling it.
Russ, NCNE
Skerke
I have bought coins that had been dipped, and in each case, wish they hadn't, I don't know that I have one that was dipped that I'm glad it was.
But it needs to be up to you as the owner/conservator. What do you think will be best for the coin and for it's future?
Poof! What nature took decades to do was gone in a few seconds. Yes, I was a dip. I think about that coin from time-to-time.
Newbie, listen up, don't be a dip.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
Billy
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<< <i>No the purpose isn't to improve the coin, it's to line his pockets with profit. >>
That assertion might have merit but for the fact that I still own the coin and have no intention of selling it.
Russ, NCNE >>
That's only because you haven't been offered the right amount of loot for it...CA-Ching!