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Are toned SAEs worth a premium?

WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
Got some bits and pieces of junk silver from my dealer. He had a partial roll of 87/88 SAEs, sold them to me for $8 each. Got 'em home and found that several had some pretty interesting colors.

The one on top is shown for comparison, it's pretty much white. The two in the middle are a really pretty champagne color--the one on the right is really quite stunning and doesn't look nearly as unevenly toned in person. Both are blast white on the reverse.

The bottom three have purple to green rim toning that is just starting to creep onto the surfaces, mostly on the obverse but just a tiny bit on the reverse, too.

Worth a shot on eBay, or are toned SAEs a dime a dozen?

(image is my first attempt using the Marty Cone of Science)
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    cswcsw Posts: 432
    Not to me, but undoubtedly there's a sucker, er . . . collector out there for whom those are juuuust right.
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    Tiger trout, Deerfield River, c. 2001.

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    poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    The toning needs to be just a tad bit more impressive in order to warrant a premium. Here's one with toning that I think warrants a premium for the coin. Some may disagree but to each his own I suppose.

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    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Here's one like that just posted that sold for 1/60th of what the one posted is being offered at:

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    Same grade, too.

    Russ, NCNE
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Weiss,

    In answer to your question, the ones that you displayed are worth little or no premium.

    Russ, NCNE
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    mrdqmrdq Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭
    1. buyer beware

    2. there's one born every minute

    3. to each his own

    4. yes

    5. no


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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whats spot silver taday. Sorry but all they really are is bullion rounds.
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    << <i>Weiss,

    In answer to your question, the ones that you displayed are worth little or no premium.

    Russ, NCNE >>



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    They have to have some color to them other than brown or gold to really command any premium....but when they have a lot of color...than can go for a considerable premium!!!
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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ, that is a beautiful hunka silver. It just goes to show ya that it takes HUNDREDS of years of just the RIGHT exposure to the elements to get really GREAT toning.



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    tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    My dealer has a ton of them in a cigar box, he has them labeled "Tarnished, BU silver Eagles" He wants $8 each.....maybe i should buy some and sell them on flea bay?
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ, that is a beautiful hunka silver. >>



    Yeah, it was a screaming bargain, too. I sold it for less than $60 compared the $3 grand or so that was the original price on the other one posted.

    Russ, NCNE
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, Russ and all. I'd spend the time listing them if they might sell for $15 or more, but I'm just toooo lazy for less 'n that.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, but did the other one sell at the asking price?
    As I said in that other thread, if it didn't have all the little 'Non-toned" marks, it would be better....I just don't like it like that.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yeah, but did the other one sell at the asking price? >>



    Nah, the price was dropped to $750.

    Russ, NCNE
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did it sell at $750 then?
    I like toned coins, but I just can't imagine it selling for over $100 max (I wouldn't pay that but I know there are people that do)

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    I saw the most incredible Proof ASE at the ANA show last weekend - a 1986 NGC PF69* UCAM (just
    the third star given by NGC). The obverse was a deeeeep blue/violet with even color, zero breaks
    in the toning and mirrors that were clear as glass. The reverse was blast white. I would have loved
    to see the rims of that coin!

    The coins story: The dealer said he bought it raw at the show and had it graded there. The original
    seller told him that he had purchased it from the mint in 1986, had taken the front half of the capsule
    off and placed it on his mantle for display. His wife made him take it down shortly thereafter and he
    placed it back in the velvet box without the obverse capsule half. 29 years later he opens it, and voila!

    Asking price: $1700 (I didn't buy it)

    Ken



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    DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720


    << <i>His wife made him take it down shortly thereafter and he
    placed it back in the velvet box without the obverse capsule half. 29 years later he opens it, and voila!

    Asking price: $1700 (I didn't buy it)

    Ken >>



    29 years you say?

    I'm more impressed with the time machine than I am the toning. image
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    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
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    Doh, the dealer told me it was 30 years and I thought I was correcting that part of the story! image
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    BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    With the SAE's, you can make your own. Find old PCI holders, place the coins in the holders, and place the coins/holdered, in the window sill. Voila!

    They tone up quickly. I semi-local dealer near me makes them up at a regular rate. He places them in his display case near the street window for a few months till they tone up. Depending on the weather............

    I recently sold some and they fetched anywhere from $50-$100 for the nicer ones, and less for the not so nice ones.

    To each their own with these.

    Asking $3k, or even that $750 is.....well........I guess anyone can ask what they want for their own inventory.
    BigD5
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    pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,843 ✭✭✭
    Here's one that I like. I regret not bidding on it. I have kept it on my track and bid on Teletrade since the auciton.


    SAE Rainbow Link
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    poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    Yeah, it was a screaming bargain, too. I sold it for less than $60 compared the $3 grand or so that was the original price on the other one posted.

    Russ, I believe you are mistaken. The one above started at $750 and was never listed higher. We sold an NGC PF69*DCAM before that was listed at the price you mentioned at around 3 grand or so. Anyone who saw the coin would agree that it is nicer than that MS70 that sold for over $13,000.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com

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