Has anyone crossed an ANACS net graded coin to PCGS or NGC?

ccex · March 26, 2005 2:04PM

Today's mail brought me a key date Barber Dime (1894-O) from an expert in the series. ANACS graded this one "AU details, rim damage, cleaned, net EF-40". Neither the seller nor I can detect any sign of cleaning, and the coin has considerable pleasant, natural-looking toning. There is a small gouge on the reverse rim at 9:00 which is not as wide as the rim itself. I'm happy with the coin as an EF-45, and it now lives in my Dansco album housing my #1 Barber Dime set.

Since both buyer and seller think ANACS goofed on this one, the larger question is whether net-graded ANACS coins necessarily translate into bodybags at PCGS or NGC if cracked out of their ANACS holders. I've cracked this one out already, and will probably hang onto it for a decade or two. Still, I'm curious to hear if anyone out there has turned an ANACS "problem coin" into a PCGS or NGC slab.

RKKay · March 26, 2005 2:08PM

I've crossed a pattern quarter from ANACS PR 64RB to NGC PF 64RB then PCGS PR64RB on the first try each time.

Edited to add: Oops, just noticed the real question: I've never tried.

Rampage · March 26, 2005 9:51PM

Personally, I have not. However, Russ will tell you that he tried to cross a 2-cent piece some time ago and it got BBed on the first try at PCGS for cleaning or altered surfaces or something like that. He sent it back for a second try and it got graded-and on top of that, it was graded as a pop 1-->MS64RB I think.

Taikonaut · March 26, 2005 10:12PM

Its like a lottery with these market graders, so wound up by its limitation they dont know whether to grade it or not, surely net grading is the better way. I bet if there are substantial amount of money involved in a particular grade they will either down grade a piece or body bag it. Am I right?

mirabela · March 26, 2005 10:48PM

I can't answer the exact question, but I have in front of me this instant, in an NGC slab, an XF-detailed Bust quarter noted as VF35 on the cert. Beneath the classic two-tone gray, things are suspiciously glossy, and if you really get in there and study it with a loupe & the light just right, AHA! There are the hairlines!

So, I dunno if that's what did happen to this coin, but in essence it shows it could. I prefer the ANACS way of going about things -- among other reasons, it would probably have knocked 15% or so off what I had to pay to get this coin.

majorbigtime · March 26, 2005 11:45PM

I crossed an ANACS "net good, scratched" 1901 S quarter to PCGS G06!

The scratch was minor (on the eagle's shield) and it was a nice, full rim original coin. It's the only coin I've ever cracked and resubmitted, but I may do it again with a 13 S "vg, scratched, net Good 6".

bushmaster8 · March 27, 2005 12:06AM

Not exactly. But I cracked out an NGC AU58 Barber 25¢ and ANACS net graded it for "scratch".

RotatedRainbows · March 27, 2005 12:21AM

<< <i>Personally, I have not. However, Russ will tell you that he tried to cross a 2-cent piece some time ago and it got BBed on the first try at PCGS for cleaning or altered surfaces or something like that. He sent it back for a second try and it got graded-and on top of that, it was graded as a pop 1-->MS64RB I think. >>

Actually the sequence went sent in NGC slab DNC, then cracked and came back BB then finally on the third time it came back 65BN pop 1 non higher if I remember correctly. And all this happened in a few month period.

RYK · March 27, 2005 12:59AM

Yes. My first gold coin was an AU 1890 quarter eagle that my father purchased for me from Stack's as a gift in 1977. In 2003, at a local show, I submitted it to ANACS for grading. It came back AU details, Net XF-45 for cleaning. Several months later, I cracked the coin and submitted it to PCGS (as part of a Collectors Club submission), and it came back AU-58.

RYK · March 27, 2005 1:30AM

I also have two coins that have the exact opposite experience. I own 1794 and 1795 heavily circulated large cents that were BB'd on the PCGS Collector's Club submission. I recently sent them to ANACS and the 1794 is in an AG-3 holder, and the 1795 is in a VG-10 holder.

Hadleydog · March 27, 2005 1:31AM

They make mistakes all the time, both ways.

cointagious · March 27, 2005 1:35AM

Yes, many times with gold.

Has anyone crossed an ANACS net graded coin to PCGS or NGC?

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