Any dealings with Great Southern Coins?

stev32k · March 22, 2005 10:00AM

Has anyone brought from greatsoutherncoins on ebay? They have some listings up I might be interested in, but their feedback looks kinda shaky to me.

dthigpen · March 22, 2005 10:04AM

I have, the transaction was satisfactory.

newport · March 22, 2005 10:07AM

I just picked up a few PCGS 65 and 66 Washingtons......very smooth

Myqqy · March 22, 2005 10:09AM

Thiggy fresh- have you been smoking a lot of weed lately??

dthigpen · March 22, 2005 10:10AM

<< <i>Thiggy fresh- have you been smoking a lot of weed lately??

>>

Nope, not lately, none at all actually.

stev32k · March 22, 2005 10:13AM

The other thing that concerns me is I don't see any kind of return policy. They also do not give any description at all beyond the title, and their pictures are not very good.

Coinhusker1 · March 22, 2005 10:41AM

Stay far away from their raw coins. They are overdipped, overgraded, and the toned ones are horribly AT'd. Most of their slabbed coins appear lousy for the grade. There are better sellers out there.

Here is an example of one of their "Rainbow" beauties:

mjhoffpauir · March 22, 2005 11:16AM

I spent over $200 on a 1934 Texas Comemorative Half Dollar that had writing on the obverse that was not stated in the ad or pic. The Morgan was advertised as a MS-65. At best it was an MS-62++/MS-63. I politley asked for a full refund and recieved three emails apologizing for the oversight on his part and to return for a full refund. So the coins had problems but he took them back for a full refund. I think he has a perfect record or close to it. At least he offered to refund, more than I can say about other dealers. Well just thought I should give you my two cents worth. Enjoy what remains of your day.

Coinhusker1 · March 22, 2005 11:38AM

<< <i>I spent over $200 on a 1934 Texas Comemorative Half Dollar that had writing on the obverse that was not stated in the ad or pic. The Morgan was advertised as a MS-65. At best it was an MS-62++/MS-63. I politley asked for a full refund and recieved three emails apologizing for the oversight on his part and to return for a full refund. So the coins had problems but he took them back for a full refund. I think he has a perfect record or close to it. At least he offered to refund, more than I can say about other dealers. Well just thought I should give you my two cents worth. Enjoy what remains of your day. >>

That seems to be the MO of many Ebay crapsters -- they make a killing on those that don't know any better, and for those 5% who figured out they got less than they paid for, they give no-hassle refunds to keep them quiet and keep thier reputation intact. Hell of a way to make a living.

stev32k · March 22, 2005 11:51AM

<<That seems to be the MO of many Ebay crapsters -- they make a killing on those that don't know any better, and for those 5% who figured out they got less than they paid for, they give no-hassle refunds to keep them quiet and keep thier reputation intact. Hell of a way to make a living.>>

I believe you are right. I have purchased coins that were described as original, never cleaned MS62/63. When I get the coin it is harshly cleaned, and at best an XF. When I email or phone the seller to report I am returning the coin the response is nearly always the same - "I didn't know - I'll refund your money including shipping right away".

ARCO · March 22, 2005 12:44PM

I just returned a $130.00 Dollar coin that was cleaned and retoned. It was one of the ugliest coins I have ever seen, and I felt that their pics are very deceptive. I have not yet heard back from them and they do not have a clear refund policy. I won't buy from them again until their pictures better reflect what the coins actually look life in person.

Tyler

ARCO · March 22, 2005 1:27PM

Update as of 3/22/05. Money for returned coin was refunded! I am not impressed with their pictures, but they happily refund money for dissastisfied customers and that makes for a reputable seller in my opinion.

Tyler

Coinhusker1 · March 22, 2005 10:53PM

<< <i> I won't buy from them again until their pictures better reflect what the coins actually look life in person.

Tyler >>

Well, once the pictures reveal what the coins really look like, you still will not buy from them!!

ziggy29 · March 27, 2005 2:50AM

<< <i>Update as of 3/22/05. Money for returned coin was refunded! I am not impressed with their pictures, but they happily refund money for dissastisfied customers and that makes for a reputable seller in my opinion. >>

It at least means they're not scam artists, anyway, at least if you know how to spot a problem coin and they're willing to accept a return.

I wonder about the angle at which they take pictures, because sometimes they don't look bad in the angle/lighting used. I'm looking for some nice VF/XF Seated Dimes, for example, and they have an 1845-O Dime in XF which doesn't look hideous from the picture (though I wonder about the bright spot in the right obverse field). Yet in the back of my mind I suspect this would look badly cleaned and otherwise messed with in hand. And this is a coin that is very much a condition rarity, quite rare in XF and above -- it goes from about $60 in Fine to $250 in VF to $700 in XF -- so there's a LOT of potential downside if the coin is net graded downward. Stuff like this, I suspect, I'd only buy sight-seen (with the coin in hand) or reputably slabbed. If this coin is truly a problem-free XF, it should be slabbed since a solid XF has triple the value of a VF. It's easy to hide problems with the right imaging setup.

These are the kinds of coins where treading into the world of raw coins on eBay is like entering the shark-infested waters.

roadrunner · March 27, 2005 3:47AM

Well, I guess if your gonna buy raw coins on ebay, you might as well try Southern or Ernie. I'll deal with Southern, but only on older holdered slabbed coins that have decent eye appeal. I don't believe they offer a return privilege on slabs.

roadrunner

UncleWiggly · March 27, 2005 5:03AM

I knowingly bought a ACG very pretty AT Franklin that popped up here on the boards before Christmas. The transaction was no problem. I talked to them on both the phone and by email. Oh, I wanted the AT Franklin so I could crack it out, put it in a bezel, and hang it on my Christmas tree.

Jerry

majorbigtime · March 27, 2005 6:16AM

Are they affiliated with tuesdaynightcoins??

Seems to be the same type of dealer.

gyocomgd · March 27, 2005 8:54AM

Hard to complain about their slabbed stuff, and they do stand behind everything they sell. My only issue is that with raw coins they arbitrarily shout out it's grade, and the coin I got from them wound up four grades beneath that. I say they're just so-so. Their photos are usually soft, the coin tilted or camera angled away, and never show hairlines and other weaknesses. Far be it from them to tell you all about it. At the end of the day they're just another ebay seller and are hedging their bets against their raw coins getting returned. Judging by their feedback rating, a lot of what they throw agains the wall seems to stick.

anablep · March 27, 2005 9:10AM

I'd be wary...

Fletcher · August 24, 2005 1:55PM

I bought a raw Morgan from him that was listed as MS65 that turned out to be AU50 at best! However, he gave me a full refund including shipping fees. DO NOT buy raw from this guy, slabbed should be fine.

Myqqy · August 24, 2005 2:00PM

As far as I'm concerned, a top notch dealer doesn't grade au50 to ms62/63 coins as being ms65........ ever!

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