Looks like an identical 16-D Mercury Dime on eBay by two different sellers -- how can this be?

mercurydimeguy · March 21, 2005 2:42AM

Link to 16-D eBay auction -- coin #1

Link to 16-D eBay auction -- coin #2

Not that I'm looking to buy either one of these two, but while surfing eBay Merc listings I ran across a 16-D that looked familiar. Looked through the listings again, and low and behold -- looks like the same dime

D · March 21, 2005 2:56AM

Definately the same dime, I'd report 'em.

-Daniel

ebaytrader · March 21, 2005 3:03AM

BigE · March 21, 2005 3:07AM

Looks to me like they both stole the pictures, the second link really isn't Superior Galleries is it?

----------------BigE

Steve27 · March 21, 2005 3:14AM

When you right-mouse-click the image in the second one it says, "Protected by Superior Galleries," so my guess is that it's their coin.

Russ · March 21, 2005 3:25AM

The seller in the first auction has several negs for shipping a different coin than pictured, so I'd guess it's they that are the image thief.

Russ, NCNE

XpipedreamR · March 21, 2005 3:33AM

What are you talking about? The mint made thousands of 'em. They all look kind of similar, no?

mercurydimeguy · March 21, 2005 3:53AM

The Superior auction is interesting -- one guy that bid has a feedback of (-1) -- didn't know that was possble

The BIG bidder has a feedback score of (0).

These are kind of auctions are fun to watch -- rare raw coin ... not in a holder ... "new" and "first time" bidders are running up the price. Can't suppose or draw any conclusions, but interesting non the less.

What's even more interesting is that these auctions are ending just a few hours appart so you'd think that the people that are bidding on one would have (at least) bid on the other -- but nada -- in either case. The guys that have loosing bids over $1k in Link 2 should love the coin in Link 1 at 1/2 the price

Robgetty · March 21, 2005 4:11AM

Yet another reason I won't buy raw expensive coins on Ebay.
At least you can compare the cert numbers on a slab

mikeb310 · April 8, 2005 4:03AM

This is my first post and would like to say Hello. I have seen this before and have experinced this as a seller. I've seen the same coin with the same PCGS cert. number by two sellers at the same time. I also had two auction hijacked by someone. They took my id and started new auctions that would have ended before mine. This after I had bids and close to two hours left on the auctions. Ebay noticed this and cancelled the auctions. I don't buy raw coins and I double check graded coins with the completed items just in case.

Russ · April 8, 2005 4:10AM

<< <i>This is my first post and would like to say Hello. >>

Fresh meat!

Russ, NCNE

bgrice · April 8, 2005 4:20AM

<< <i>

<< <i>This is my first post and would like to say Hello. >>

Fresh meat!

Russ, NCNE >>

mikeb310.....

Tell Russ to bite you.

rocketmangb · April 8, 2005 5:02AM

Yippee !

A NEWB !

rocketmangb · April 8, 2005 5:02AM

Yippee !

A NEWB !

GoYankees · April 8, 2005 5:07AM

Item #2 has been nuked by eBay.

mikeb310 · April 9, 2005 12:23PM

Ebay nuked all auctions before whoever that was could get paid on my auctions. In this case the bids were up to $8200 on one and $1700 on another when they hijacked me so we're talking some serious money.

Ebay has a good fraud and security team and are very helpful. If they nuke your auction they cannot restore it or your bids. The buyer was more than greatful for the save and completed the sale in another auction later.

robertpr · April 9, 2005 12:47PM

Auction 2 has been removed. I guess they were the thief. Which auction began first? That is usually the legit photo.

USC · April 9, 2005 1:17PM

Can someone explain how it is possible to hijack an auction?

mikeb310 · April 9, 2005 1:26PM

I am still unsure how that happened. Maybe someone who knows more about computers than I do can answer that. All I know is that they had the same exact listing. It was a copy and paste nothing changed other than the seller id changed. Dumb luck I guess.

Tootawl · April 9, 2005 1:30PM

I'd never buy a raw 1916D on Ebay.

mikeb310 · April 9, 2005 1:42PM

I don't think I would buy one either. I lucked out many years ago. I bought one raw that I graded as VG8 at a local show. Had it graded two years ago and came back VG-10. It was a gamble even in person. Why would a coin like this not be graded?

USC · April 9, 2005 1:43PM

So no real hacking was done - scumbag just started a new auction and copied your narrative and picture. Got it.

mikeb310 · April 9, 2005 1:49PM

He did copy the listing but in my understanding it could have been some type of hacking because ebay caught it so fast. I'm sure they don't look for duplicate listings all the time.

You're right he is a scumbag.

Looks like an identical 16-D Mercury Dime on eBay by two different sellers -- how can this be?

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