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Cherrypick of the day, 1956 Proof Set with CAM/DCAM Frankie (Type 1 or 2?)
SanctionII
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Went to court this morning to right the wrongs of the world, save the oppressed and promote truth and justice. After court I stopped by a pawn shop to snoop for coins before going back to the office.
Gald that I did. The shop had multiple proof sets in the 1955-1964 yellow envelopes sitting in a display case. I asked if I could look at them. The proprietor said yes and I browsed through them. One was a 1964 that looked like it had been opened and resealed. I asked if I could open it and was told yes. The set inside was crap, with dirty spotting on JFK.
I eventually looked at a 1956 set. Bingo, nice clean coins and a 1956 half that screams CAMDCAM through the cello in even in lousy light. I picked it up for less than retail, hustled back to the office and checked it out in good lighting with a loupe. No hairlines, nicks or marks that I can see. It has developed light colored haze on both sides of the coin. However, looking at it closely through the cello and haze reveals that deep watery mirrors lurk beneath. The devices on both sides (lettering, date, Ben, the eagle and the Liberty Bell) all have thick, smooth, creamy unbroken frost. There is only minimal frost fade in the usual places. Finally, the lettering on the reverse shows doubling (I can not tell if it is machine doubling or if it is one of the doublings described in the Cherrypicker's Guide, guess I will have to pull out the book and reread it).
The only things I am not sure of is whether it is a Type 1 (wouldn't that be great) or a Type 2; and its grade. Does anyone have pics of the Type 1 and Type 2 that they can post? As far as grade goes and given that I am looking at it through cello and haze, I think it would at least 67CAM. If the cello and haze are removed and mirrors/frost are as I think they are, it may go 68 and may go DCAM.
I love a good Friday cherrypick (I only wish it was a 1959).
Now I need to decide what to do with the set. Should I keep it intact? Should I sell the set or keep it? Should I cut out the half and bathe it to remove the haze? What is the value range for an original 1956 Proof Set with a half like the one I picked up today? What is the value range for a 1956 67CAM, 68CAM, 69CAM, 67DCAM, 68DCAM and 69DCAM half in Type 2? Any responses from you CAM Frankie fans would be appreciated. SanctionII.
Gald that I did. The shop had multiple proof sets in the 1955-1964 yellow envelopes sitting in a display case. I asked if I could look at them. The proprietor said yes and I browsed through them. One was a 1964 that looked like it had been opened and resealed. I asked if I could open it and was told yes. The set inside was crap, with dirty spotting on JFK.
I eventually looked at a 1956 set. Bingo, nice clean coins and a 1956 half that screams CAMDCAM through the cello in even in lousy light. I picked it up for less than retail, hustled back to the office and checked it out in good lighting with a loupe. No hairlines, nicks or marks that I can see. It has developed light colored haze on both sides of the coin. However, looking at it closely through the cello and haze reveals that deep watery mirrors lurk beneath. The devices on both sides (lettering, date, Ben, the eagle and the Liberty Bell) all have thick, smooth, creamy unbroken frost. There is only minimal frost fade in the usual places. Finally, the lettering on the reverse shows doubling (I can not tell if it is machine doubling or if it is one of the doublings described in the Cherrypicker's Guide, guess I will have to pull out the book and reread it).
The only things I am not sure of is whether it is a Type 1 (wouldn't that be great) or a Type 2; and its grade. Does anyone have pics of the Type 1 and Type 2 that they can post? As far as grade goes and given that I am looking at it through cello and haze, I think it would at least 67CAM. If the cello and haze are removed and mirrors/frost are as I think they are, it may go 68 and may go DCAM.
I love a good Friday cherrypick (I only wish it was a 1959).
Now I need to decide what to do with the set. Should I keep it intact? Should I sell the set or keep it? Should I cut out the half and bathe it to remove the haze? What is the value range for an original 1956 Proof Set with a half like the one I picked up today? What is the value range for a 1956 67CAM, 68CAM, 69CAM, 67DCAM, 68DCAM and 69DCAM half in Type 2? Any responses from you CAM Frankie fans would be appreciated. SanctionII.
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<< <i>Does anyone have pics of the Type 1 and Type 2 that they can post? >>
Type 1 Frankie:
Type 2 Frankie:
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Went to court this morning to right the wrongs of the world, save the oppressed and promote truth and justice. >>
As far as truth and justice goes, I dispensed some justice today but did not have to dispense with any truth. My court appearance was a continued hearing in a probate case to obtain a court order approving the distribution of estate assets to the beneficiaries under their mother's will. All debts and expenses of the estate had been previously paid and the only thing left to do was to have the court review and approve everything my client (the executor) did during the course of the probate and direct the distribution of the remaining assets.
So justice was done (because the beneficiaries will now receive the money). The court had reviewed the paperwork in advance, required a couple of technical matters be addressed and corrected with a supplemental declaration and once this was done, the final order was rubber stamped. No one appeared to oppose the request for the order. I did not have to even appear before the judge as the grunt work was handled by court staff.
All in all a low stress court hearing, unlike the court hearing of a couple of days ago when Scott Peterson was sentenced to death.
What are your collecting priorities? Are you putting together a complete set of cam franklins, or just looking to make a few quick dollars on a nice purchase?
I hope your find is a Type 1 - rare in high grade cameo, very rare in deep cameo. A nice Type 1 would be a nice addition to your set - even if there is no "hole".
Even if it a Type 2, although relatively common, would be a great snag in dcam if purchased at bid or below.
Cameonut
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Type 1 on the left, Type 2 on the right. Note the four wing feathers to the left of the perch on the type 1, and three to the left of the perch on the type 2. That's the easiest way for me to tell the difference.
Russ, NCNE