I would love to have a full-time career in Numismatics, and think I could do a damn good job at it, cause I have a broad based knowledge of coins, have a good grading eye, great personality, lots of experience from years of collecting/ vest pocket trading and most recently assisting a dealer friend at some off the larger national shows.
The problem is as most stated, I have a secure job, with decent pay, and good benefits. Being young myself with three young children and spouse, I have to know that I have a job to go to each day, and that its not going to get slow, or possibly end in the near future??
Living in Florida for over twelve years, and not quite ready to retire from a job I love ( at least not for another seven or eight years ) I wouldn't mind working with a numismatic firm (on a retail level, or with a grading company in Sarasota) when the time was right. I've collected for forty four years and have collected most 19th and 20th century material and have a sharp eye for the nuances in grading. Occasionally I err in decisions on grades, but not too often. Gradeflation in recent years has me a bit stumped on occasions though.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
The Florida part, yes. I leave Colorado twice a year to scuba dive, sail and salt-water fly fish. Just bought 25% interest in a 41-foot sailboat that lives in the bahamas in the summer and the Keys in winter. Plan to retire there, and that's close.
The coin part, no.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
At some point, I'd love to do something like this as a second career. Once we get in the financial position where I could comfortably take a pretty hefty pay cut, I'd be all over it.
I'm just not sure I could deal with the pay cut it would entail...yet. But there are few people I envy more than those who love their job, and I'd like to eventually have a job where I'm not obsessed with retiring early because I'd like the job so much.
Once we build our investment portfolios up a bit to the point where we could tap a little of it each year to augment other income...I'm on it!
I have actively considered it. I am building my grading skills and have been contimplating taking the ANA course this summer. I would need to be sure that the income was sufficient.
Not sure I could get the family to move, but if the right opportunity came along, it might not be too difficult.
I am currently in sales and work trade shows pretty regularly. "Working" a coin show would be much more interesting. I have an interest in what lies in front of me, what customers bring to me, and what other exhibitors have to offer. I currently travel a lot, so I wouldn't mind going to shows, being a buyer, etc.
It's interesting that there appears to be great demand for employees in the coin business. I'm experiencing a little deja vu'. This is particularly fascinating:
<< <i>Call me Monday at 1 800 362 9004 or PM me and name your number. >>
Those of you who have been in the tech industry for more than a few years should be feeling a bit of a chill right now.
<< <i>It's interesting that there appears to be great demand for employees in the coin business. I'm experiencing a little deja vu'. This is particularly fascinating:
<< <i>Call me Monday at 1 800 362 9004 or PM me and name your number. >>
Those of you who have been in the tech industry for more than a few years should be feeling a bit of a chill right now.
Russ, NCNE >>
you mean they're paying in stock options that will be worthless in 1 year ? ?!?!?!? remember, contractually you can't excercise them for 5 !
I'd never make the cut 'selling' coins, or working a table, and could not make a living at it... But, my dream job would be to take what I do, and do it for one of the major coin houses... So, if anyone is running a $20,000,000 plus auction house or other coin related biz, and looking for an experienced COO... I'd be all over that. Do what you do around things you love! Anyone??
<< <i>It's human nature to kid around like this, but we're told we can't do it here. The OF was the relief valve for this place. >>
You're absotively posilutely right. I just know Michael never participated in the OF. And I know him well enough to know that line would have him rolling on the floor, but...again that's what PM is for now
I like what I collect, and nobody is going to influence that. I do it for fun, not profit, and nobody is going to influence that either, so my answer is a big fat definitive NO! (Besides, I don't ever want to be a wannabe!) Joe<><
<< <i>It's human nature to kid around like this, but we're told we can't do it here. The OF was the relief valve for this place. >>
You're absotively posilutely right. I just know Michael never participated in the OF. And I know him well enough to know that line would have him rolling on the floor, but...again that's what PM is for now >>
If we're talking about the same michael, he was a mainstay of the OF
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>If we're talking about the same michael, he was a mainstay of the OF >>
Michael of Pikachu icon. I just visited him last night for 90 minutes and drooled over some of his holdings. Didn't know he was ever over at OF This is a guy who would be in heaven as a fulltime numismatist. He already is, just doesn't get paid or appreciated enough as such though.
1. The perfect way to escape from my wife six days a week , 2. Learn a lot more about this fascinating business 3. Make a little money 4. I loved living in florida
Cons
1. I'd miss my wife (sometimes) 2. I might discover the coin business isn't fun anymore 3. Make LITTLE money
I can't afford to now, busy running my business (7 days a week, 90+ hours) but when I get tired of it and sell out I'll need something to do besides fish and read books so yes maybe I would someday.
and oh yeah - I could only work for someone who was honest duh
As a numismatist, sure I'd love it. Problems, I like the mid-west so I'm not all that interested in moving. Two, I'm a numismatist not a grader, a buyer, or a salesman. Three, I normally prefer to work seconds or third shifts, preferably alone but I can work with others who are also able to work independantly. I don't socialize well. Four, I don't like big cities. I grew up in one and now I live in a rural community and I enjoy it. But I don't drive so long commutes to work would be bad unless the winters are very mild. (I still can't find gloves that work well on a motorcycle at ten below. My bike REALLY hates ice and snow too, and a long commute on moped in ice and snow is very tiring.)
I would, and I suspect I will some day. But if I do, and who I do it with, will almost certainly be a result of friendships, personalities, ethics and philosophies I share with them, more than anything else.
<< <i>Who in their right mind would ever want to work in the coin business??? Only deviants and cretins do that sort of thing for a living. >>
Since you don't strike me as a cretin, David.........oh, never mind.
If I was in the right place around the right people, I would probably enjoy numismatics as in studying coins in great detail. In fact, I have a few pots on the burners down that direction. But I also have a lot of distractions, meaning I also do several other unrelated things with about the same level of dedication wich keeps all of them from finding any serious approach to completion. And this is retirement for me. As for someone actually employing me as a numismatist, that would be funny as I completely lack any of the typical credentials associated with that.
I'd do it in a heart beat. I worked for a coin dealer for about three years and loved it. You have to take the good with the bad, and the bad really isn't that bad. What's not to like? Traveling? Post office trips? Oh how terrible, lol.
Call me if you're opening a St. Louis branch office. Or better yet, moving your headquarters here!
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The problem is as most stated, I have a secure job, with decent pay, and good benefits. Being young myself with three young children and spouse, I have to know that I have a job to go to each day, and that its not going to get slow, or possibly end in the near future??
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Living in Florida for over twelve years, and not quite ready to retire from a job I love ( at least not for another seven or eight years ) I wouldn't mind working with a numismatic firm (on a retail level, or with a grading company in Sarasota) when the time was right. I've collected for forty four years and have collected most 19th and 20th century material and have a sharp eye for the nuances in grading. Occasionally I err in decisions on grades, but not too often. Gradeflation in recent years has me a bit stumped on occasions though.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
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The coin part, no.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)
I'm just not sure I could deal with the pay cut it would entail...yet. But there are few people I envy more than those who love their job, and I'd like to eventually have a job where I'm not obsessed with retiring early because I'd like the job so much.
Once we build our investment portfolios up a bit to the point where we could tap a little of it each year to augment other income...I'm on it!
Not sure I could get the family to move, but if the right opportunity came along, it might not be too difficult.
I am currently in sales and work trade shows pretty regularly. "Working" a coin show would be much more interesting. I have an interest in what lies in front of me, what customers bring to me, and what other exhibitors have to offer. I currently travel a lot, so I wouldn't mind going to shows, being a buyer, etc.
<< <i>Call me Monday at 1 800 362 9004 or PM me and name your number. >>
Those of you who have been in the tech industry for more than a few years should be feeling a bit of a chill right now.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Those of you who have been in the tech industry for more than a few years should be feeling a bit of a chill right now. >>
Isn't that the truth.....You too RYK, kinda scary......
Paul
No way, not a chance. That would take all the fun out of it.
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<< <i>It's interesting that there appears to be great demand for employees in the coin business. I'm experiencing a little deja vu'. This is particularly fascinating:
<< <i>Call me Monday at 1 800 362 9004 or PM me and name your number. >>
Those of you who have been in the tech industry for more than a few years should be feeling a bit of a chill right now.
Russ, NCNE >>
you mean they're paying in stock options that will be worthless in 1 year ? ?!?!?!?
remember, contractually you can't excercise them for 5 !
But, my dream job would be to take what I do, and do it for one of the major coin houses...
So, if anyone is running a $20,000,000 plus auction house or other coin related biz, and looking for an experienced COO... I'd be all over that. Do what you do around things you love!
Anyone??
tap tap...
Is this mic working???
Hmm... I guess the good spots are all filled up!
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
<< <i>Who in their right mind would ever want to work in the coin business??? Only deviants and cretins do that sort of thing for a living. >>
How then do we define those that buy from the deviants and cretins?
<< <i>Who in their right mind would ever want to work in the coin business??? Only deviants and cretins do that sort of thing for a living. >>
Deviants and cretins everywhere take umbrage.
even funnier!
maynbe my numismatic skills need some polishing and i know nothning about ebay
but i needs excellent medical benefits
sign me up
I've had fun dealing the last 7 years but I'm just too honest and have missed my family too much.
It's awfully easy money if you know what you're doing.
I've made many friends and will continue to play via a web-site.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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<< <i>Andy, reference available for Michael. But keep your dog clear of him. He likes Southeast Asian cuisine.
Now here we go. I think that's funny, cuz I know you mean it in good natured fun. But that's what the OF was, too. And you're not an OFer.
Bottom line, this forum will morph into a type of OF, but it won't be the OFers doing it. Then what is C gonna do?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Now here we go. I think that's funny, cuz I know you mean it in good natured fun. But that's what the OF was, too. And you're not an OFer.
Bottom line, this forum will morph into a type of OF, but it won't be the OFers doing it. Then what is C gonna do? >>
Good point pharmer. My bad. Shoulda been a PM.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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It's human nature to kid around like this, but we're told we can't do it here. The OF was the relief valve for this place.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>It's human nature to kid around like this, but we're told we can't do it here. The OF was the relief valve for this place. >>
You're absotively posilutely right. I just know Michael never participated in the OF. And I know him well enough to know that line would have him rolling on the floor, but...again that's what PM is for now
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
Joe<><
<< <i>
<< <i>It's human nature to kid around like this, but we're told we can't do it here. The OF was the relief valve for this place. >>
You're absotively posilutely right. I just know Michael never participated in the OF. And I know him well enough to know that line would have him rolling on the floor, but...again that's what PM is for now
If we're talking about the same michael, he was a mainstay of the OF
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>If we're talking about the same michael, he was a mainstay of the OF
Michael of Pikachu icon. I just visited him last night for 90 minutes and drooled over some of his holdings. Didn't know he was ever over at OF
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
<< <i>I love this hobby too much to ever do it for a living-----------------------BigE >>
It's only a hobby 'til you have a guy paying you , then breathing down your neck, screaming : "CHERRYPICK, Darnit "
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Pros
1. The perfect way to escape from my wife six days a week
2. Learn a lot more about this fascinating business
3. Make a little money
4. I loved living in florida
Cons
1. I'd miss my wife (sometimes)
2. I might discover the coin business isn't fun anymore
3. Make LITTLE money
I can't afford to now, busy running my business (7 days a week, 90+ hours) but when I get tired of it and sell out I'll need something to do besides fish and read books so yes maybe I would someday.
and oh yeah - I could only work for someone who was honest duh
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-Horace
<< <i>Who in their right mind would ever want to work in the coin business??? Only deviants and cretins do that sort of thing for a living. >>
Since you don't strike me as a cretin, David.........oh, never mind.
If I was in the right place around the right people, I would probably enjoy numismatics as in studying coins in great detail. In fact, I have a few pots on the burners down that direction. But I also have a lot of distractions, meaning I also do several other unrelated things with about the same level of dedication wich keeps all of them from finding any serious approach to completion. And this is retirement for me. As for someone actually employing me as a numismatist, that would be funny as I completely lack any of the typical credentials associated with that.
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Call me if you're opening a St. Louis branch office. Or better yet, moving your headquarters here!
1. 7-17-81 Warrenton GC Driver 310 yards 7th Hole (Par 4)
2. 5-22-99 Warrenton GC 6 iron 189 yards 10th Hole
3. 7-23-99 Oak Meadow CC 5 iron 180 yards 17th Hole
4. 9-19-99 Country Lake GC 6 iron 164 yards 15th Hole
5. 8-30-09 Country Lake GC Driver 258 yards 17th Hole (Par 4)
Collector of Barber Halves, Commems, MS64FBL Frankies, Full Step Jeffersons & Mint state Washington Quarters
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