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badgrdog · January 23, 2005 7:56AM

Here are five coins from my Mother-in-Laws Estate. I can only assume from were they're from. Can anybody help?

AuldFartte · January 23, 2005 8:33AM

I think the bottom left (5 Ore) and top right (10 Ore) are from Denmark, but I can't read the dates

The one with the square hole (bottom, center) is a Chinese cash coin, but I know nothing else about it. The others are from Asia, but that's the best I can do. I'm not really into Asian countries' coins.

badgrdog · January 23, 2005 8:40AM

The 5 is 1915 and the 10 is 1925

YCCY9229 · January 23, 2005 8:43AM

The one at the top left is a Japanese 10 cash coin. The date is 1941.
The one at the center of the bottom is a Chinese coin. The date is somewehere between 1723 to 1735. Hope this helps.

Y.C.

newsman · January 23, 2005 8:44AM

The one in the bottom right corner is a Netherlands East Indies 1/4 guilden 1942. It should have a mintmark above and to the right of the date.

badgrdog · January 23, 2005 8:50AM

Thank you for your help. You think the Chinese coin is from the 1700"s. If so, that is my oldest coin. Would you know what it might be worth or where I can do some research on it.

badgrdog · January 23, 2005 8:52AM

The Mint Mark is S. Where is S?

farthing · January 23, 2005 8:54AM

The 5 Ore in the bottom left is from Norway, the reign of Haakon VII.

I'm from Minneapolis, we're required to learn the names of all the Norwegian Kings in grade school!

farthing · January 23, 2005 8:56AM

Badgrdog - You might of heard of the S mint before - San Francisco

One of many coins the United States minted for other countries during WW2

badgrdog · January 23, 2005 9:28AM

Yes, I know of the San Francisco Mint, but I didn't realize that coins for other countries were minted in US Mints. Thank you, I have learned something new today and that is always a good thing.

Mike

Stork · January 23, 2005 10:53AM

The Japanese coin in the upper left is a 10 sen. The Japanese date is Showa year 16. It's made of aluminum and in year 16 there are two weights, either1.5 gram or 1.2 gram. By year 18, there was only 1.0 grams in a 10 sen coin. I guess that's how tight it was getting any metal, even aluminum during the war years, that such small reductions were made.

Cathy

edited to say...I don't think this one was minted in San Francisco though!

satootoko · January 23, 2005 11:08AM

<< <i>The one at the top left is a Japanese 10 cash coin. The date is 1941. >>

Actually, it's an aluminum 10 sen, dated Showa 16 (1941), either Y#61 (1.5g) or Y#61a (1.2g). "Cash" is a Chinese denomination which the Japanese never used. Their older coins which resemble Chinese cash coins are denominated "mon".

Krause and the Japanese Numismatic Dealers Assn. disagree quite a bit on the mintage of the lighter coin. Both list the same 575,600,00 for the 1940-41 mintage of the heavier one, but Krause claims 94.5-Billion for the 1941-42 mint output, while JNDA says it was only 944,900,000. (Of course, either way that's a lot of coins!)

Edited to correct my misreading of the weights. It's the 1943 Y#61b that's only a gram.

Stork · January 23, 2005 11:14AM

Perhaps they should come up with a mintatage of "lots and lots"! I don't have the Krause handy, but the JNDA gave the 1941 weights as 1.5 and 1.2 grams. Maybe another area of disagreement between the two? How about Lots and Lots and Real Light?

Hi Roy!

Cathy

satootoko · January 23, 2005 11:16AM

<< <i>You think the Chinese coin is from the 1700"s. If so, that is my oldest coin. Would you know what it might be worth or where I can do some research on it. >>

If you are an ANA member, borrow Fisher's Ding or Schjoth's Chinese Currency from their library. If not, check your local library and see if they have either one. Those are top English language resources on Chinese cash coins.

In general, there were so many millions of cash coins cast that very few of them have any significant value.

sumnom · January 23, 2005 12:09PM

The Chinese cash coin is from the Qianlong reign (1736-1796) and minted by the Board of Revenue in Beijing.

The denomination of the Chinese coin is "wen." "Cash" is an English translation of that term. I don't know why English speakers didn't use"wen" instead. Wen is the same as "mon" in Japanese and "mun" in Korean.

Also, FYI, the Chinese "yuan," the Korean "won," and the Japanese "yen" are all derived from the same word meaning "round."

WhiteLighnin · January 23, 2005 12:38PM

DAMN!!! you guys are gooood!!!!!

sumnom · January 23, 2005 12:52PM

I just went snooping in Ding Fubao and found that the Qing coin is not a "wen" but a "fen." Well, well, well.

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