More scans of vintage tobacco cards.

invader · December 18, 2004 2:38AM

Hi,

A few more scans:

More to come.

Matt

edited to fix links.

MorrellMan · December 18, 2004 5:36AM

Matt, you got some 'splainin' to do...

Stone193 · December 18, 2004 5:41AM

Hi Matt
This one is my favorite!

MorrellMan · December 18, 2004 5:51AM

Mike, Matt - nice. You think PSA would grade them?

Stone193 · December 18, 2004 6:22AM

<< Mike, Matt - nice. You think PSA would grade them? >>

Four sharp corners, great registration, great borders....hmmmm....PSA 10 baby!!!!!

MorrellMan · December 18, 2004 6:51AM

<< 

<< Mike, Matt - nice. You think PSA would grade them? >>

Four sharp corners, great registration, great borders....hmmmm....PSA 10 baby!!!!!

>>

I notice that Matt's are the unseparated two card panel version - any premium there ya think?

invader · December 18, 2004 7:18AM

LOL. you guys.

first and last time I use that photo hosting site.

Hopefully you can now see these:

Matt

MorrellMan · December 18, 2004 7:32AM

Very very nice, Matt. I like that Sweet Crop card, it looks very Allen & Ginter-ish (of course, y'all probably think our Allen & Ginter's are very Sweet Crop-ish)....

Enid Bennett -

She is some dish!!! Wow!

Cubfan · December 18, 2004 9:58AM

Fun cards Matt. Thanks for taking the time to post them.

Stone193 · December 18, 2004 2:59PM

Hey Matt
Glad you them on board! The Japanese ambassadore to GB is a cool card - made me think of the movie the Last Samurai - do you have the set?
thanx for sharing
your friend
Mike

invader · December 19, 2004 7:59AM

Hi,

Mark,
Allen & Ginters are very similar to the Cohen & Wheenan Sweet crop. I often buy cards because of the design of the back over what is on the front.

Keith,
Thanks.

Mike,
The Lambert Japanese series is one I am trying to put together. I have only 8 at the moment. There is no Billy Connelly or Tom Cruise card though.

Here are a few more:

Matt

MorrellMan · December 19, 2004 9:06AM

Thanks Matt - keep 'em coming!

You mentioned a japanese set. I picked up a set at a flea market off Picadilly about 10 years ago, and I've recently seen some examples of these cards on the 'bay. One seller indicated that they were an exact copy of a british soccer set, only with japanese on the back and that the players faces on the fronts had been "japanese-ized". The date on my set was placed at 1934. Can you tell me more?

Cubfan · December 19, 2004 10:40AM

I just picked this set up a while back as an offshoot to the movie cards. Its similar to my Mitchell Gallery of 1935 set, but is Godfrey Phillips In The Public Eye. Its a pretty neat set of 54 cards that include politicians, cricket players, boxers, golfers, actors, tennis players, horse racing people, soccer players and pilots. I mainly got it for the Churchill card, but as probably 80% of them might get 8's or better, I very well may send some in for grading.

Keep posting your cards guys. Im learning quite a bit from this and am really enjoying seeing what all is out there.

Interesting soccer set Mark.

Stone193 · December 19, 2004 11:34AM

Matt
Thanx! Really cool. I like the recruiting poster card! Reminds me of "over there..." Did you read the card on the guy who won the Victoria Cross? Great stuff!

Mark
Can't read the back...it all "Chinese" to me!

Those are nice cards - do ya get bargains at those markets? California is known for some really big flea markets. So, you think there is an English version of the set?

Keith
I like the Churchill also - on my monitor the bottom of the card is chopped slightly and there is a big space...are there cards under the churchill?
Thanx for posting guys
very entertaining!

Cubfan · December 19, 2004 10:54PM

Mike - There are three cards in a second row (Jim Braddock, Harold Larwood, and J. Ramsay Macdonald). Does anyone else see those three?

Its interesting reading on the backs. Ill try to post some of the backs later tonight.

invader · December 20, 2004 1:34AM

Hi,

Keith,

I can see the other cards. The Public Eye set has a great collection of celebs from the 30's and is very undervalued in my opinion.

Mike,

The VC Heroes set is a personal favourite of mine. My Great Grandfathers Brother was one of only 3 people to ever win the medal twice. There is a card of him in the 7th series of this set (8 series all together, 25 cards in each). I would pay well for any copies of his card. He is Capt. Noel Chavasse. If anyone has any, let me know.

Mark,

The Original version of your Chinese footballers is the John Players & Sons 'Hints On Association Football' from 1934 (set of 50).

Here are some more scans:

The last one is a German card from the 1930's. The series is entitled German Uniforms.

Matt

invader · December 20, 2004 1:37AM

And here are a few sport related ones:

Matt

Stone193 · December 20, 2004 6:51AM

<< I would pay well for any copies of his card >>

Matt
If I had the card, it would be my privilege to give it to you.
your friend
Mike

MorrellMan · December 20, 2004 7:13AM

Matt - I really like those Famous Knockouts cards - how were they issued? How many in a set? What are they actually called. They are really quite cool. Thanks!

Cubfan · December 20, 2004 7:21AM

Matt,

Im guessing you might have already seen the card of your relative.

But if not, here's a Victoria Cross site that has pictures of each card. You just click the 7th series to see your card.

Victoria Cross Pictures

edited to fix link

invader · December 20, 2004 7:43AM

Keith,

thanks for that link, I had not seen that site before. My Dad has a copy of the card that has been in the family for years but it is in very poor condition. I am looking for several gradeable copies for myself and a few other family members.

Mike,

thanks for the thought.

Mark,

The set is called Famous Knock-Outs and has 11 cards in the set. It was issues in a weekly periodical called 'The Rocket' in 1923. The cards came one per week for the first 11 issues. Here is the only other one I have:

MorrellMan · December 20, 2004 10:57AM

Thank you Matt. I can't tell you how hypnotized I am by that Knock-outs set. Tell me about the card stock - is it thin or thick, glossy or dull?
Looks like they're fairly tough to find - true?

habs71 · December 20, 2004 11:59AM

Are there "Victoria Cross Heroes" for WWII?

Thanks

Skip

Stone193 · December 20, 2004 12:09PM

<< Are there "Victoria Cross Heroes" for WWII?

Thanks

Skip >>

Hi Skip
The set is turn of the century 1910's - so I would say it was for gallantry during WWI and around that time. Just a guess - I have seen a set that is from the WWII period also...tho.
your friend
Mike

habs71 · December 20, 2004 12:43PM

<< Hi Skip
The set is turn of the century 1910's - so I would say it was for gallantry during WWI and around that time. Just a guess - I have seen a set that is from the WWII period also...tho.
your friend
Mike >>

Hi Mike:

Thanks....yes, I see that the card posted is from WWI....but I'm aso interested in WWII VC winners..in particular "Smokey" Smith.

Still with the VC cards, are these GB winners only or do they include British Commonwealth recipients too?

Back to WWI..anyone seen a card for Col. John McCrae..author of "In Flanders Field"??

Thanks again Mike.

Skip

invader · December 20, 2004 6:00PM

Mark,

Yes they are hard to find. They are in the book at £8 each ($15), I paid £10 ($19) for the 2 I have a while back but have not seen any more since. They measure 6.9 x 4.3 cms, so they are an odd size. They have a glossy finish and look similar to the 'Real Photograph' cards you can get from this period. The card stock is very slightly thicker than other tobacco cards of this period. It is a very nice set, I am sure there are boxing enthusiasts that would be all over this if they knew it existed.

Skip,

I have not come across a specific set of WW2 VC heroes but there was a set called History of the VC issues by Doncella Cigars in 1980. This may have WW2 related stuff in.
The Gallaher WW1 VC Heroes set does include VC winners from all over the Commonwealth.

There may well be a card for McCrae somewhere, there are many sets from this period that have Celebrities and War heros in them.

Was Smokey Smith a relative or friend? My Grandfather also fought all the way up Italy in 1943-44.

Matt

habs71 · December 21, 2004 4:01AM

<< Skip,

I have not come across a specific set of WW2 VC heroes but there was a set called History of the VC issues by Doncella Cigars in 1980. This may have WW2 related stuff in.
The Gallaher WW1 VC Heroes set does include VC winners from all over the Commonwealth.

There may well be a card for McCrae somewhere, there are many sets from this period that have Celebrities and War heros in them.

Was Smokey Smith a relative or friend? My Grandfather also fought all the way up Italy in 1943-44.

Matt >>

Matt:
No, "Smokey" Smith is not a relative..he's from my hometown and when I was a kid that's all we heard about. I've had the pleasure of meeting him on a number of occassions.. usually Rememberance Day. He is still alive, and is Canada's last remaining VC winner.

Col. John McCrae's "Flanders Field" was a poem I learned at a very young age, and always had to recite during Rememberance Day services. Even now, all those years later, I think of it....and I have a poppy on the shelf above my desk for eternal remberance for the men and women who have sacrificed to give us what we have.

I've always felt that a person should try and learn something new each day..be it a word, a fact or stat....just something to increase one's knowledge. During my 60+ years I've done pretty well with that.
But I must say that you guys are helping out tremendously. So to Matt, Mike, Mark, Keith and the rest of you guys....Thanks..thanks for showing us your cards and sharing the information and stories behind them. I for one greatly appreciate the time and effort that you put into it.

MERRY CHRISTMAS to all of you, and your families.

Skip

invader · December 21, 2004 6:48AM

Skip,

thanks and Merry Christmas to you as well and everybody else reading and contributing here.

Mark,

Would you believe it. Today I walked into the Card Dealers shop below me in the shopping centre and he has just got 7 more of the Famous Knock Out cards in with a large lot from an auction. I quickly secured them for a good price. I now have a duplicate of the #7 card and will send you a PM about it.

Here is another card from the set you might find interesting.

Matt

invader · December 21, 2004 6:54AM

Mark,

Nearly forgot.

Here is a scan of the British version of the Chinese cards you posted earlier.

Matt

Cubfan · December 21, 2004 7:04AM

Man, look at the size of that crowd at that Dempsey fight.

vwtdi · December 28, 2004 3:53AM

Cubfan · December 28, 2004 5:02AM

VT - Where and what is that building? Quite the architectural monstrosity.

I think I might have seen a couple of cards like this recently, but had no idea of the year.

vwtdi · December 28, 2004 6:11AM

If memory serves me correctly, its the War & Defense Dept, Washington DC 1890s

MorrellMan · December 28, 2004 12:14PM

Matt - thanks for posting the English version of those soccor cards. I had understood that the two sets were the same, except that the artwork for the Japanese set was changed a bit:

Here's yours and mine side by side:

MorrellMan · January 10, 2005 1:06PM

Matt - thanks very much for this card - I just got it today:

I would like to get some more; you got me hooked!

Hugginsandscott · January 11, 2005 3:48AM

Matt and the rest of you,

My upcoming auction has some of the cards from the sets listed here. We actually have a couple of NM and better sets of the one's with Tennis, golf, etc.. in a lot.
We also have several british and irish cards, similar to those in the photos here. The lot that we've got has a Jesse Owens card that I've never seen before.
If you are interested in our catalog, I can either mail one to you, or you can visit our site at register and bid right online at:

www.hugginsandscott.com

All lots will be available for viewing and bidding on Jan. 15th and catalogs will mail on Jan. 19th.

Thanks and give us a call if you have any questions.
Josh Wulkan
Huggins and Scott Auctions
1-866-462-2273

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