Which cent is scarcer, the 1922 plain or 1955 DDO?
clw54
Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
Which one has more specimens in any condition?
0
Comments
Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
Dennis
Like VOC Numismatics on facebook
Free Trial
My Complete PROOF Lincoln Cent with Major Varieties(1909-2015)Set Registry
PCGS in all grades:
1922 Plain) Weak D) 205; No D, strong reverse) 1751; No D, weak reverse) 695.
1955 DD) 1435
NGC in all grades: Sorry NGC's site is down. Will get back to you.
Tyler
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
The 1922-P is mushy and ugly no matter what. I think it takes its value based off a false assumption, when discovered first, that somehow it was a "midnight product" of 1922 cent presses in Philly. That not being the case (and if it were I would think it would be valuable on the order of 1913 nickels, albeit not as scarce or expensive) I don't feel it's worth the $$$. Add to that only "some" of the '22 Plains are "really" '22 Plains, from a particular die pair. Not so with the 55/55, the big one is the big one and it's very recognizable and striking in appearance, even to a non-collector. And, the '55/55 has a better story of how it came to be, tied to a hurricane and all....
Yes, I feel strongly on this issue! You'd think I was sitting on a hoard of '55/55's to promote. I wish!
I agree, the 22 No D coin (strong reverse) is extremely rare in MS grades especially in red, in fact I have never seen one in RED. Even true red/brown specimens are extremely tough. Very few MS coins ever come availble. From time to time you will see the weak reverse variety in lower MS grades, but this coin is not a true No d and should not be considered as the same thing. Also nice AU 22 no d are quite tuff and usually bring strong money at auction if nice.
The 55DDO is a neat coin and availble in AU to lower ms grades in brown and r/b on any given day and from several sources. However, Unspotted Full Red Ms-64's and especially MS-65's are a true find and extremely tough. Many of the 55's developed problems from exposure to the elements as they were being recovered (carbon, spotting and loss of red) . (Oreville's coin ) is one of the nicest 65 red's I have ever seen from a pic and would be honored to get to see it in person one day.
Anyway, I think the 22 No d in general is a tougher/scarcer coin, but the 55 DDO is a more popular coin and benefits from the incresed demand. Although scarcity does fluctuate depending on the grade range your comparing as mentioned, the lower circ grades of course have more 22 no d' available as the 55 DDO were never in circualtion long enough to get any lower than Xf. (at least thats the lowest grade I have ever seen.
Those will go on my short list, right after the $2000 worth of stuff my guy is holding for me.
<< <i>I don't know, but I want one of each in a nice VF - EF condition.
Those will go on my short list, right after the $2000 worth of stuff my guy is holding for me. >>
It might be difficult finding a 1955 DDO in that low a grade. Most that I see at shows are AU-MS.
Furthermore, I seem to recall that back in the 1960's, the no D weak reverse was considered the real version of the 1922 no D cent and the strong reverse was considered to be an oddity almost to be avoided. That changed beginning in the early 1970's in which the weak reverse has been virtually discarded as a valid 1922 no D cent. It sure created some confusion and might haved hurt the marketability and recognition of such issue?
As far as the 1955 DDO cent, such issue is enjoyable in any grade including the brown circulated and or uncirculated pieces with the only negative being that such pieces are harder to photogragph. Not much of a negative.
The answer is quite simple. The 1922 NO D is MUCH RARER thatn the 1955 DDO. The prices justify it. I know quite a bit about these two.
For starters, the Philly mint knew it had made the error, but chose to release the coins after they were mixed with the NON error ones, and placed in a bag for circulation. The director of the mint said, "let them go, it's too hard to seperate them from the other 10 Million now." There were between 20 to 24,000 minted in the DDO error. The best graded 1955 DDO is the PCGS's MS65RED. I have one. NGS had a MS66 RED, took forever for it to sell, then someone paid (I think) about $40,000 for it. The MS65 REDS go for $25,000. ALL of them that have sold recently went for about $25K. There are probably, truthfully, after all resubmissions, about 20 at PCGS MS65RD.
But then there is the 1922 Plain. At or above MS64, there is 4 at PCGS, none anywhere else. I believe Stewart Blay has the ONLY above MS 64 RED coin. (A MS65 RED). I would pay $85K for it. I have a BROWN MS64 Strong Reverse PCGS. Only three better, (again only ONE red over MS64). Worth more than the 1955 DDO, for similar grades, by far, and much rarer.