THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR...KIND OF...

TUMUSS · June 10, 2004 12:40PM

Just got this message listing some auctions on ebay. I think this is a GREAT first step towards the BIG-TIME scammers out there!!!

CarlWohlforth · June 10, 2004 12:41PM

Yeay!

It looks like eBay and the ANA have talked, that is great.

jbsteven · June 10, 2004 12:42PM

cool

Russ · June 10, 2004 12:42PM

Excellent news.

Hasn't slowed down this con artist, though.

Russ, NCNE

nOoBiEeE · June 10, 2004 12:44PM

Does this mean an IMAGE must accompany a listing of coins/currency?? I hope so.

Bikingnut · June 10, 2004 12:45PM

It's a start, but I don't think it will change a thing.

darktone · June 10, 2004 12:47PM

Do you think this will really stop the scammers? or just make it harder for the reguluar ebay seller? mike

jbsteven · June 10, 2004 12:49PM

<< <i>Does this mean an IMAGE must accompany a listing of coins/currency?? I hope so >>

wondercoin must be worried.

Russ · June 10, 2004 12:53PM

<< <i>Do you think this will really stop the scammers? >>

No, but it does give eBay a little legal CYA should they decide to actually start shutting some of the slimeballs down.

Russ, NCNE

Neptune · June 10, 2004 12:54PM

maybe the red letters will at least make them blink.

airplanenut · June 10, 2004 12:56PM

Maybe there will be people who know what they're doing shutting auctions down...

coinguy1 · June 10, 2004 1:54PM

This is, but part, of what will be coming out during the next month or so, based upon a cooperative effort between Ebay and the ANA.

This new Ebay policy pertains to the thread below - I have linked it in case anyone missed it previously:

Link

NumisMe · June 10, 2004 2:02PM

"One small step for man..."

Ya gotta start somewhere, and it's about time!

100proof1957 · June 10, 2004 2:43PM

For what its worth,i have seen that message on all of my stamp auctions for months !
And Russ,u r right,coinmovers sells nothing but overgraded PCI crap !

Proof

Myqqy · June 10, 2004 2:58PM

Even if it's a baby step, it's still movement- as far as coinmovers, I suspect that dude has legs and will be around a while...

sTONER · June 10, 2004 3:29PM

that is great,finally start scaring some of the joycoffs a bit

STEVE

rb7557 · June 10, 2004 3:44PM

I was very surprised by this tonight when I listed a couple of coins. I definately think this is a good move on ebay's part!!!

GAT · June 10, 2004 4:08PM

I really don't believe this will change a thing. Did the electric chair or the hangman stop murderers? No. and I don't see how this helps. The answer is for eBay to split the coin categories into two parts. The first would allow only PCGS/NGC/ANACS and Mint products to be listed. The second part would be raw and any other slabs with a big eBay disclaimer stating your taking your chances. Will this ever be done? I seriously doubt it.

K6AZ · June 10, 2004 4:09PM

Here's a guy who has a real problem with the new guidelines.

Whiner

Wolf359 · June 10, 2004 4:25PM

Yeah, he's a whiner. I doubt the "ANA" can force a seller refund though when the auction states "NO returns". Or that the buyer will be sending the coin to ANA for an independant opinion; seems completely impractical to me.

DHeath · June 10, 2004 9:37PM

Good opening gambit. It'll be interesting to watch the rest of the policy and implementation unfold. It's an idea that's time has come.

nwcs · June 10, 2004 9:47PM

Ahh, just got my renewal in for the ANA. I'll definitely be re-upping! It's only a small step here, but small steps lead to great heights.

BAJJERFAN · June 10, 2004 10:01PM

As usual "After all is said and done, more will be said than done." Lip service is a wonderful thing.

red68 · June 10, 2004 10:12PM

scammers can still pull the old trick of that's not the item i sent you. How do you prove thats what they sent? E bay is still a crap shoot in my book.

MrEureka · June 10, 2004 10:39PM

I wonder if the ANA's "selling guidelines" will include a mandatory return privilege?

meos1 · June 10, 2004 11:30PM

Something is better than nothing. The ebay poster numismagician seems sufficiently upset about it so at least one ebay seller feels that this has teeth. As far as crying wof about grades....Learn to grade. If you don't know how, fiund someone who does. Not that hard. The other side of this is that the situation on ebay had begun to deteriorate considerably. If ebay did not police the market in thier perview then the FTC would have eventually (Although it would have been a long time coming). Fair assessments of the product being offered for sale are essential to any sellers legitamate success, anything else is an attempt to defraud.

Dan Watson

jhar · June 10, 2004 11:44PM

Sounds like a good thing to me. However, it won't change how I personally choose the coins I bid on. I still will only bid on certified coins unless I trust the seller implicitly, I will only bid on coins with a decent picture, and only on coins with a decent return policy. I will still be checking out those feedbacks too.

Russ · June 11, 2004 2:26AM

<< <i>Here's a guy who has a real problem with the new guidelines.

Whiner >>

Eric,

That boy doesn't seem to have much faith in his own grading ability.

Russ, NCNE

Askari · June 11, 2004 2:41AM

If it proves to have teeth -- and not just up front for show -- then it will weed out quite a few of them. It will be particularly telling if eBay goes after any of its PowerSellers, rather than just the small fry. At some point, you'd hope that eBay would realize that its laxity in chasing out the frauds hurts its own bottom line most. Every auction for an uncertified coin (and probably also to a lesser extent certified ones) suffers a "fraud penalty" to the price realized.

pontiacinf · June 11, 2004 3:02AM

wondercoin must be worried.

mitchell neednt worry, the man has done enough for me ill gladly send him one of my old digital cameras for nada and also provide him with instructions and support, would be the least I could do for him.

as for the new policy, may well just give pople who changed their mind to waste sellers time with needless returns...one never knows does one?

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