Looks like the typical 1921 improper planchet rinsing/toning to me. Dale Williams is owner of Williams Gallery. I have done quite a bit of business with them and in every case, the coins have looked much better than their images. They shoot their coins straight on, which makes them look washed out and without details.
Yes, that is what the milk spots are from. Toning on most 21 Morgans is pretty nasty. I would pass on this coin not because of the grade, but for the milk spots and toning. Heck, I just sold a nice white PCGS MS63 21-S for $60 including shipping.
The 21-P PL's I have seen in the past were not too attractive. This coin seems typical of those. Dale Williams is a good dealer. I have purchased a number of items from his "Collectors USA" website in the past.
On the other hand, this is a coin I would have to see in person. The photo, although not complimentary, seems to show a bit of friction.
Lane
Numismatist Ordinaire See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
It's amazing to me that there are so many ebay sellers with horrible pics! I've sniped some PCGS coins at decent prices, turned around and listed them on ebay with nice pics, and for the most part have done very well! I bought a '09-P Lincoln in a PCGS 64RD rattler holder for $20.53 (plus $4.00 S/H). Coined looked great in-hand, pics were pathetic! Just sold it on ebay for $70 - pics made a big difference!
Mike
Edited to add: Just remembered they had it listed as RB instead of RD - also makes a big difference!
Wow, that's a pretty good example of an eBay seller screwing themselves with crummy images and not being very careful about their description. I've picked off many great buys on eBay by knowing what to expect in PCGS and other holders where the seller has either a bad image or no image. Probably my best score was a guy a few years ago that listed an old PCI 1899-O Morgan, MS65 with no picture. I emailed him and asked him what the coin looked like, and he said it was a blazer and very well struck. I bid, and got the coin for $51. When I received it, I broke it out and sent it to PCGS. It came back as a 66.
I didn't catch the mistake in the listing until after I had won the auction. I saw the slab and low-balled a 64RD bid. I was surprised I got it until I noticed the RB in the title. Luck!!!
Mike
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Russ, NCNE
I would pass....
So the haziness on the obverse, and the large milkspots on the reverse could be due to poor planchet rinsing??
in other words,if i was gonna buy it,thats what i would pay and maybe less !
Proof
On the other hand, this is a coin I would have to see in person. The photo, although not complimentary, seems to show a bit of friction.
Lane
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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and hopefully it will arrive tomorrow, err I mean today, damn it's 3a.m.
Herb
We're talking about a $30-$35 coin. If you're interested in the least, give it a shot,
if you don't like it return it. Coins shot from straight on always look bad. Sooooooooo,
what's the major deal here?
1904 Morgan
Here is what the coin really looks like:
Mike
Edited to add: Just remembered they had it listed as RB instead of RD - also makes a big difference!
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Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
Mike
Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!